CHQ and United

[jumppilot]

I have a buddy who is going through indoc for TSA now. Their chief pilot told the class that TSA had the United deal locked up, but lost it and it is going over to CHQ, to include 170s.

I don't know if their chief pilot knows CHQs plans, but interesting news none the less.

 

[POKEY]

That may be true but, this probably has more to do with TSA Mgt. trying to put pressure on the pilots to agree to below avg pay rates for the 170.

 

[NoName]

its true. details to follow.

 

[TSA Pilot]

A dispute over payscales for the 70 seaters. The C.P. Claimed we lost the 70 seat deal not the whole United deal. They wanted the union to agree to a payscale that was only $2 an hr more for captains and less than $1 an hr more for fo's. This is BS. This was for the EMB 170 (70 Seats) and for the EMB 175 (86 seats ). CHQ pays their pilots more in fact SR. CA on the 145 makes $103 an hour!!! TSA's SR. CA max was 82.55 for the 170/175. Thats $20 an hr less to fly an AC with 20 to 36 more seats (if you're a SR CA). Were not going to give the company an inch until they are willing to pay us what we are worth.

TSA Pilot

 

[FlyForFood_NOT]

TSA pilot is right

Unlike Mesa, Trans States pilots stand up for themselves and their pay rights.

About TSA losing contract with United, I don't know how much truth that holds. TSA just got 10 more EMBs on the United side (total of 20 now).... CQH got none so far

 

[mckpickle]

Will this race to the bottom ever stop?

 

[RegionalFA]

I have a buddy who is going through indoc for TSA now. Their chief pilot told the class that TSA had the United deal locked up, but lost it and it is going over to CHQ, to include 170s.

I don't know if their chief pilot knows CHQs plans, but interesting news none the less.

the irony to me is the CHQ management implied (CEO in a company memo) that we almost had the united deal to begin with... but lost it to TSA because of the pilot strike vote.

 

[FlyingDawg]

Some maintenance personnel have recieved 170 manuals and a senior maintenance lead has left for Republic.

The DOT website has no new info regarding Republic, and only 145's are approved in the current certificate.

I will guess that Republic will fly 170's for United and Shuttle America will get a SF340 contract (replacing ACAs props) in IAD. This is a little more than an educated guess!

Just in case you want to keep track of the Republic info, the DOT docket # is 14579.

 

[crj579]

Flyforfood- You may be interested to know that MAA now is the leader for low 70-seat wages - not Mesa. MAA captain rates are $58/hr. This negotiated by UsAirways MEC. Are you saying that they don't have a backbone too? But please, keep up the bashing. It only helps management.

 

[AirBill]

Flyforfood- You may be interested to know that MAA now is the leader for low 70-seat wages - not Mesa. MAA captain rates are $58/hr.

How so, when CHQ's rates for 70-seaters range from $53.35-89.90 an hour, and higher after Oct. 1?

 

[OldManPilot]

Will this race to the bottom ever stop?

Your an idiot.

 

[Smacktard]

OldManPilot 'rights'...

Your an idiot.

English not your first language? That would be You are an idiot, or you're an idiot. If you're going to call someone an idiot, at least try to make it look like you have some edumacation. It helps bolster your argument.

Normally I try to keep away from these petty grammer things, but for Christ's sake folks, this is stuff you should learn in the 5th grade. And you fly a jet? That's frightening.

 

[AirBill]

Normally I try to keep away from these petty grammer things, ...

Well, maybe you should pay more attention to those petty spelling things, especially if you're going to smack someone down for grammar.


Ain't life grand?

 

[Batman Fan]

Now that was funny!

 

[Axel]

Your worst humiliation is nothing more than someone else's momentary entertainment.

BTW, a Big Announcement is due any minute for CHQ

 

[Paladin]

So what's the BIG announcement?????

 

[TWAER]

Look for an announcement VERY soon about new code share with United flying 170's and 145's. Republic is back and will now operate out of Indy instead of SDF. Will be certified by the end of the summer. How do I know. Was in Indy today and let's just say it is not a big secret. People that have been working on CHQ only business now are working solely on RP business.

 

[AirBill]

Get used to it: Chautauqua will be Republic.

I have no basis in fact for this, other than our holding company is Republic Airways.

 

[exphojump]

I had a Fed in the jumpseat out of IND on Friday. He was commuting home for the weekend. He confirmed that republic was now based in IND and putting EMB170s on the certificate. He didn't/couldn't say how many or for whom.

 

[Smacktard]

Well, maybe you should pay more attention to those petty spelling things, especially if you're going to smack someone down for grammar.


Got to love me some crow.

 

[DoinTime]

Flyforfood- You may be interested to know that MAA now is the leader for low 70-seat wages - not Mesa. MAA captain rates are $58/hr. This negotiated by UsAirways MEC. Are you saying that they don't have a backbone too? But please, keep up the bashing. It only helps management.

First year CHQ 70 seat rate - $53.55
First year Mesa 70 seat rate - $53.86
First year Skywest 70 seat rate - $56.03
First year Mesaba 69 seat rate - $58.19
First year ASA 70 seat rate - $60.20
First year Comair 70 seat rate - $63.79

Looks to me like the MAA guys did pretty well.

 

[AirBill]

 

[Capt America]

What is the pay after 1st year? I know that Chautauqua wont having any first year guys flying the 170 as captain.

 

[d.fitz]

Not sure if this has been hashed over a bunch or not. But, is republic and chautauqua now under the same union (and seniority list).

 

[General Lee]

Dointime,

That is the key, there aren't any 1st year 70 seat Capts at ASA or Comair---so those airlines are at a disadvantage compared to MAA flying their EMB-170. Got it yet? They will have something like 40 EMB-170s by the end of the year(?), and the combined salary of both the Capt ($58 an hour) and FO ($35 an hour) will not equal a Comair 70 seater Capt's (around $100 an hour?). That is beginning to sound a lot like the comparisons between Delta and United pilots........yikes....

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[OldManPilot]

Not sure if this has been hashed over a bunch or not. But, is republic and chautauqua now under the same union (and seniority list).

Yes, all flying by Republic Airlines will be done with pilots from the Chautauqua Airlines Pilot Seniority List.