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BizPilot

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How many of you would say that your personality has changed after spending a few years in an aviation career?? I have many friends and family tell me I seem "dull, boring, too serious, depressed, very quiet, etc"........but the fact is that I am completely happy inside.

I especially noticed this after going through regional airline training. Would many of you agree that the training and environment is so intense it would be similar to a "chiseled military peronality"?

I don't know, maybe I need to call Dr. Phil. Don't get me wrong, I don't see anything wrong with my new demeanor, but I can tell that I am definitely CHISELED from what I was 10 years ago. But I can't seem to place my finger on what it is in aviation that changed me. Any thoughts? Ideas?
 
how does dull and boring become defined as "chiseled military" personality?

I do remember seeing a car for sale outside of a residence once...the sign in the window said...

"$800.00 cash FIRM! No chiselers!"

Maybe you need to figure out a way to enjoy life outside of aviation while you can...find a hobby, go do non-aviation things.
 
Jack Schitt said:
When was the last time you got laid?
Yea, really! It's better to be the chiseler and not the chiselee.
 
WayBack said:
ATL might have to disagree with you there, FN FAL
Hahaha...great minds think alike! :D

"If I had hammer, I'd hammer in the morining...I'd hammer in the evening, all over this land..."
 
BizPilot said:
How many of you would say that your personality has changed after spending a few years in an aviation career??

I especially noticed this after going through regional airline training. Would many of you agree that the training and environment is so intense it would be similar to a "chiseled military peronality"?

Errr...I don't know about that. What I HAVE seen is the destruction of people's trust that management people have any clue as to what they are doing.

I've seen even the most die hard union hater change his/her stripes after being subjected to 6 months of regional abuse.

For some reason, aviation seems to attract some real a holes. The fact that most margins in the business are razor thin probably only makes them worse.

Nu
 
What Characterizes The Capable Pilot

This letter was put together by an industrial psychologist from Chicago.

I am of the opinion that something can be said about the structure of the “capable pilot”, at least that this group has a kind of common divisor. In general, pilots are athletically built or pyknic, they are good sportsmen, take pleasure in being actively engaged, and move smoothly. They are extraverted in general, they act primarily, and often rehearse their conversations. They are, as a rule, of an optimistic disposition and their state of mind is either normal or somewhat getting to a pole of buoyancy-often flushed with joy. There is often a notable incomplete use of intelligence.

When still at school, they are not very ambitious, often passing examinations owing to their natural aptitude for the exact subjects. Guidance counselors and teachers often communicated to their parents that they are not working to their full potential. They have an affinity for acceptance by their piers and often did things to be noticed by the opposite sex. In their group at school, they showed remarkable little leadership; not by lack of vitality, but due to their individualistic attitude. Their self-confidence is always above average. They have an enormous capability to “tune out and daydream.” Vanity is ever present. Remarkably often, they are the oldest male child born to their parents.

In many cases, their masculinity is not overly developed. An oral fixation is often available. Smooth conversation is amazingly easy for them in any social gathering or class structured environment. They often dominate conversations in social gatherings without seeming boorish or boasting. Their spouses anticipate conversations with non-pilots and members of the non-flying public to center on aviation related topics. Pilots enjoy a buoyant sense of life. They get farther in the art of living than they do in the sciences, yet their favorite television programs are of the educational and informative type. Viewing habits border on fixation. They are prone to “surf” with remote controls even when watching their favorite programs and loathe commercials. Though this is true with most adult males, the tendency in pilots is astounding, owing much to their learned ability to “scan” as though they were cross-checking their instruments while bringing their aircraft in for a landing.

They have often remained adolescent, boyish without being infantile in their personal development. It is more playfulness than naivete, rather taking pleasure in functioning they get to a laborious building of a far away ideal. They compartmentalize everything. Information, structure, cleanliness and order border on the irrational. On account of this structure, most of their private problems are to be expected. “Order” is the order of the day. These feelings are encouraged by the very nature of their work; hence “checklists” and structure are either completely abandoned in private settings or greatly intensified. It is difficult for them to live in an average environment. Most will seek women who are thin and attractive and have the physical qualities to remain in form throughout their lives.

Hobbies include those which live life on the edge. Motorcycles, down-hill skiing, scuba diving and powerful automobiles eventually give way to golf, luxury cars and the retention of one of their favorite past times holding over into their retirement.

To this rough and incomplete sketch it could be added - this with respect to the helicopter pilot - that he has the toughness to live under primitive conditions. They are adept at being able to face dangerous conditions without getting consciously afraid. Most are kind-heartedly primitive with a certain special liking for nature (hunting, fishing camping). Rather than playing musical instruments they often listen to it, usually too loudly. Whether this has anything to do with the natural drone of engines or the need to cover their ears with headphones - they like their music loud. Tapping their fingers or feet is as natural as breathing. They are able to bear loneliness and hardship, looking upon it as necessary in life. While it is true that pilots have a propensity to bear female offspring, it is especially true of helicopter pilots.

Dr. A.M. Slager

Medical Department

Schreiner Aviation Group
 
pilotyip said:
This letter was put together by an industrial psychologist from Chicago.

I am of the opinion that something can be said about the structure of the “capable pilot”, at least that this group has a kind of common divisor. In general, pilots are athletically built or pyknic, they are good sportsmen, take pleasure in being actively engaged, and move smoothly. They are extraverted in general, they act primarily, and often rehearse their conversations. They are, as a rule, of an optimistic disposition and their state of mind is either normal or somewhat getting to a pole of buoyancy-often flushed with joy. There is often a notable incomplete use of intelligence.
This paragraph, by itself, would explain all of the fighting that goes on around here! :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, I am different now than I was 10 years ago....

10 years ago I thought I would be making 250K as a pilot, living in the nicest neighborhoods, driving a Porsche and retiring raking in 150K

Today, reality has almost set in....I will be lucky to see 150K, living on a few acres in the boonies, driving a restored 64 Nova and be able to retire and not have to work as a WalMart greeter......although I am still hopeful for closer to the first paragraph.

In 10 years, reality will have probably have completely set in and I will realize that I will be in the same 1000 square foot house on "white trash" block, driving our purple 95 Geo Metro and applying for the WalMart greeter job.

:)
 
Enough of this nonsense. BizPilot needs our help getting to the bottom of this issue.

How old were you when your mother stopped breast feeding?

Did you have any difficulty with potty training?

Are there any bed-wetting issues we need to discuss?

I'm only trying to help.
 
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I was reading the Doc's letter, but I got through the first paragraph then, for some reason, tuned it out and started daydreaming.
 
pilotyip said:
They have an affinity for acceptance by their piers and often did things to be noticed by the opposite sex.
The good doctor needs to hire a better secretary. I imagine any of my "piers" would accept me if I paid my dock bills on time.

On the other hand, I don't really care what my "peers" think, but that's probably due to my overwhelmingly individualistic nature.

Darn it, there is that irrational structure, cleanliness and order again...I heard that you can get a pill for that now.

Nu
 
Biz,

You are just getting older thats all......It's not chiseled....it's gas!!


As far as your attitude and personality after training? Heck thats easy.......programming. You don't actually think that film "The day all hell broke loose" has anything to do with microbursts do you? Brainwashing.....yep....brainwashed to love to get calls from crewscheduling in the middle of the night on Christmas eve and other prime times.

Now excuse me I need to go fashion another tin foil hat, this one is getting worn and I can feel them probing my thoughts......... *shuffles off to the kitchen in search of foil*
 
capt. megadeth said:
driving a restored 64 Nova

:)
WOAH! Does Rich know this?
 

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