Chief Pilot req. (waiver)

[Flybet3]

Hey guys if someone doesn't meet the 3 year PIC requirement for a chief pilot position can one get a waiver? Lets say instead of having 36 months of PIC, I only have 32 months, can I still get the position but with a waiver?

 

[J3guy]

Yes you can, i did several years ago. good luck

 

[leenick]

Yes you can bro, if in doubt, call the FAA and ask. Good luck and enjoy that new position!

 

[surveypilot]

It all depends on your FSDO. I had to do every last day of 36 months before I was approved.

 

[Flybet3]

kewl, thanx fellows!

 

[deadstick]

It all depends on your FSDO. I had to do every last day of 36 months before I was approved.

+1

FSIMS Order 8900 has the criteria that can be used for granting the waiver.

 

[Flybet3]

+1

FSIMS Order 8900 has the criteria that can be used for granting the waiver.

Pardon my ignorance but what is this exactly?

 

[deadstick]

Pardon my ignorance but what is this exactly?

No prob. It's the ASI's handbook. I think it use to be called the Air Carrier insprector's HB. The FAA combined a few manuals and put it online. On FAA.gov, just search for it. Tons of info available.

 

[PilotKitch]

The waivers have to be granted by the FAA regional offices now (Atlanta for the southeast), went through this about a year ago and our POI said that by the time they would get a response I would probably be qualified and not need the waiver. Sad thing was I still needed 12 months PIC... but had over 3 years of ACP experience. Wheels of the government turn slow.

 

[JAFI]

Pardon my ignorance but what is this exactly?

If you are going to be Chief Pilot, you need some more book learning:

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/

for Order 8900:

http://fsims.faa.gov/

 

[deadstick]

If you are going to be Chief Pilot, you need some more book learning:

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/

for Order 8900:

http://fsims.faa.gov/

In all fairness, many in 135 just buy their manuals from a third party or made them way before FSIMS was released. It's possible that they would have not been exposed to it in normal operations.

 

[JAFI]

Deadstick, you are 100 % correct. I meant no harm. That does not lessen the information a Chief Pilot needs to do his/her job in accordance with the CFR's. FSIMS is very new and not so easy to navigate. I provided a link for his reading. There is a jump from flying for a department to managing a flight department. One thing a manager can get from FSIMS and the 8900 are source documents to better write/manage his manuals. I have run across a good number of consultants who write manuals that should be shot on sight for the piss poor products they charge dear for.

It is like getting your car repaired, if you know something about the process you will buy less "head light oil" or "exhaust lube".

 

[deadstick]

Deadstick, you are 100 % correct. I meant no harm. That does not lessen the information a Chief Pilot needs to do his/her job in accordance with the CFR's. FSIMS is very new and not so easy to navigate. I provided a link for his reading. There is a jump from flying for a department to managing a flight department. One thing a manager can get from FSIMS and the 8900 are source documents to better write/manage his manuals. I have run across a good number of consultants who write manuals that should be shot on sight for the piss poor products they charge dear for.

It is like getting your car repaired, if you know something about the process you will buy less "head light oil" or "exhaust lube".

No worries. I just read a little too much into the post. If I have questions, sometimes I turn to message boards (because there regs are so-o-o black and white ).

FSIMS is a good start, but, as you mentioned, it's just not too user friendly. The Feds need to organize a good system of cross referencing to include all the AC's (like the reg links) and FAA handbooks. Still the format (expanding tiers) needs to go. One can get lost in all the pop-ups. Have the index encompass all of that info.

It's a start, but there is room for improvement.

 

[JAFI]

If you have a comment about FSIMS go to the home page:

http://fsims.faa.gov/

At the bottom of the page find "contact us", and say what you want. Because the FAA is ISO 9000 now all comments are reviewed and must have an internal answer. Usually the answer is "we dont have the money to fix it" but at least you can join the other comments how the web site is a pain to move around in.

 

[deadstick]

Will do. Thanks for the info.

BTW, I thought it was "JAFO," Officer Lymangood. :beer:

 

[JAFI]

In this case, no. I'm not an "O"bserver.

I am Just Another F*&#ing Inspector, Operations type...... in my spare time.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

kewl, thanx fellows!

"kewl" automatically disqualifies you for a CP position.

 

[Flybet3]

"kewl" automatically disqualifies you for a CP position.

How about if I give you the finger and stick you in the gut? will that disqualify me? I hope not :nuts:

 

[JAFI]

How about if I give you the finger and stick you in the gut? will that disqualify me? I hope not :nuts:

It depends on the company, some require it, some avoid such behaivor.

 

[Flybet3]

It depends on the company, some require it, some avoid such behaivor.

LOL! probably right, now if you will excuse me gotta get back to the party.
Thanks for the info guys.