Cessna (Citation?) down at HOU

[SiuDude]

Fox News showing a large "Cessna" that just crashed at HOU. Looks like it's on 12L. They showed an upside down aircraft completely burned. It's either a twin Cessna or a Citation. Or maybe it's not a Cessna in the first place.

 

[SiuDude]

CNN is now saying this was a mid-air with a 737 (Southwest)? Supposedly the 737 was cleared for takeoff on an intersecting runway, while the Citation was told to delay (in position on the runway?) The Cessna took off and clipped the 737. 2 people dead in the Cessna. The 737 landed safely at IAH.

 

[cforst513]

jesus, that looks AWFUL. good lord. it's upside down and completely burnt and destroyed.

they think it's a citation, yeah.

 

[RideTheWind]

How about a link people, nothin at all about it on cnn or fox websites.

 

[siucavflight]

link please, link?

 

[erj-145mech]

Here's a link

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/

A little research is in order folks, you can look this stuff up too.

 

[siucavflight]

Here's a link

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/

A little research is in order folks, you can look this stuff up too.

If you are going to do the work, why would I bother?

By the way, thanks for the link.

 

[2000flyer]

From the Houston Chronicle:

2 die in small-plane crash at Hobby Airport

By PAIGE HEWITT
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

Two people died this morning around 10 a.m. when their twin engine plane, a Cessna Citation 500, crashed at Hobby Airport, officials said.

The plane had been waiting on the runway to take off from runway 22 at Hobby to Corpus Christi when an incoming Southwest 737 jet issued an alert because of engine trouble, according to Tommy Dowdy, district chief for the Houston Fire Department.

Air traffic controllers told the Cessna to take off quickly. Moments after take-off, however, the pilot of the business jet radioed the tower for permission to land immediately. The plane, however, plunged nose first, tumbled over and skidded nearly 300 feet on the runway, Dowdy said.

The Southwest flight was diverted to Bush Intercontinental Airport, where it landed safely.



Hobby resumed flights at 11 a.m.

 

[2000flyer]

Lets wait for the "real" report to come out...not news stories. In the article I posted above it says they were cleared for takeoff. In this link, http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=3606961, it says they were told to clear the runway but took off anyway. Nowhere have I seen ANY reports of a midair.

2000Flyer

 

[bluesky421]

I think the tail # was N505K

 

[501261]

Jeez,

My Simuflite Instructor, was going down to Houston to do some contract work on a C650 on Friday.

AJI manages a couple of 650's down at HOU.

 

[ultrarunner]

If in fact the N number IS 505K. That's a 500 series...even looks like it from the picture I saw on the news.

An ancient one too....#4 off the line.

Houston owner listed as: HCEA P A

 

[501261]

even looks like it from the picture I saw on the news.

Ya I got to agree with you, from that picture, that landing gear looks pretty straight, just like the 500 series.

 

[ultrarunner]

Oh, it's a 500 series...look at those tiny engines and the chrome TR's.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Controllers have no respect for pilots. Every action they take is designed to cover their own arses. Stuff like- "maintain visual separation", or "exit at the next intersection". Homey don't play that sh1t anymore. With any luck, the controller who ordered the Citation to 'get out of the way' will be found to have contributed to this unfortunate accident. I've seen it som many times. Just say that you're "unable". And let him fix the problem. Over and out-

 

[PacoPollo]

Specially in HOU, they like you to EXPEDITE for SouthPest all the time...Scr*w them!

 

[FN FAL]

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/files/photos/T/TXDE10211051935.html?SITE=WIMIL&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

There's a direct link to a photo, in case nobody has posted one yet.

How many dumb cops does it take to look at a plane wreck? I'm thinking they were waiting for it cool down so they could get the doughnuts out of the back.

 

[Flying Illini]

That's a pretty powerful picture...RIP.

 

[pilotmiketx]

How many dumb cops does it take to look at a plane wreck?

Quick, somebody park in front of the terminal for more than 30 seconds!

 

[gkrangers]

what in the hell happened.

 

[pilothouston123]

Pilots, ATC, Mechanics, Aircraft owners, ect... We are all on the same team called aviation. There are good players and bad ones on all teams.
Lets not lose sight on the fact that two people died today. They had families/ Bless thier souls.

 

[pilothouston123]

Pilots, ATC, Mechanics, Aircraft owners, ect... We are all on the same team called aviation. There are good players and bad ones on all teams.
Lets not lose sight on the fact that two people died today. They had families/ Bless thier souls.

 

[FN FAL]

what in the hell happened?

I'm curious as well. After all, it was a multi and it was a turbine. Short of having a fuel problem or ducks ingested, what the hell could have caused the crash?

I have some right seat 135 Citation time, but I self admittedly do not have enough time or education in them to speculate.

Sincere condolences for the families of anybody involved.

 

[erj-145mech]

It was a doctor owned 33 year old airplane. I guess with medical bills being so high, the docs can afford something bigger that a V tail Bonanza, aka, fork tailed doctor killer. The airplane was on a functional test flight, but was on a flight plan to CRP.

 

[cforst513]

It was a doctor owned 33 year old airplane. I guess with medical bills being so high, the docs can afford something bigger that a V tail Bonanza, aka, fork tailed doctor killer. The airplane was on a functional test flight, but was on a flight plan to CRP.

not much sympathy from your end, i see.

 

[erj-145mech]

Physicians have been killing themselves in airplanes for years because generally

a) they can afford to purchase high performance machines
b) they have an attitude that they are invincable
c) their egos will only let them buy the highest performance machines available
d) due to their busy schedules, they don't maintain proficiency as they should

Had a doctor buy an SNJ because he always wanted one, and his accountant told him that he could write it off because he had another practice in another city, and could use it to travel between the two cities. He already owned a Stearman, and I made a lot of money repairing it from ground loops. One one landing, he managed to grind down both wingtips on the same landing. On that landing, he was so exited that he held down the push to talk button, so we also had a hot mic at a towered contolled field, with 10 inbounds, 1/2 hour before an airshow (Ellington, Houston, Wings Over Houston).

He bellied the SNJ in one time because he was behind the airplane, most times he was. He had the throttle advanced on final enough that the gear horn couldn't go off.

He was a very good and sucessful doc, but a cluster funk in an airplane.

 

[flydoc1979]

Well, I don't know what kind of physician owned this jet that crashed, I'm just happy to be able to get by with a 1979 182Q. Believe me, not all physicians have the walk on water attitude and if I'm faced with a go or no go situation due to weather, ect, then you can bet I'm no go. We get a bad rap because of our profession but believe me there are some of us who take no chances. By the way, I'm an emergency medicine physician, so I've seen what comes in our doors first hand and it enlightens me significantly. We had a cardiologist at my field plow his 210 in the trees killing his wife and himself after being told by ATC that the weather was below minimums but he was full steam ahead because, after all, he's a surgeon. Just want all you to know that not all physicians can afford new airplanes and not all physicians think they are above god. Common sense is still the order of the day, TC

 

[Traderd]

Well, I don't know what kind of physician owned this jet that crashed, I'm just happy to be able to get by with a 1979 182Q. Believe me, not all physicians have the walk on water attitude and if I'm faced with a go or no go situation due to weather, ect, then you can bet I'm no go. We get a bad rap because of our profession but believe me there are some of us who take no chances. By the way, I'm an emergency medicine physician, so I've seen what comes in our doors first hand and it enlightens me significantly. We had a cardiologist at my field plow his 210 in the trees killing his wife and himself after being told by ATC that the weather was below minimums but he was full steam ahead because, after all, he's a surgeon. Just want all you to know that not all physicians can afford new airplanes and not all physicians think they are above god. Common sense is still the order of the day, TC

Off topic but a quick note of thanks for the work you do. The work performed by ER physicians is nothing short of amazing and like many, our family has been directly impacted by the incredible skills of both doctors and nurses working in a trauma ER unit. You guys really make a difference.

A sincere thank you.