CE-510 pay

[countbat]

Anyone knows what the pay for a Citation Mustang pilot? Single pilot operation and management. Also what's a fair pay for such an oversea job?

 

[siucavflight]

You going to be the only pilot? The "chief pilot"? Is it for a corporation or a private owner? I would say depending on if you are flying for a company or an individual the pay could be between 100-175K. 175 if it is for a corporation, and you are that corporations chief pilot, and the lower side if it is for an individual.

 

[kingairyahoo]

...the "going rate" is whatever they are willing to pay

 

[siucavflight]

Ask for 250K, see what he says.

 

[tgriffin]

I must be really underpaid!!!

 

[siucavflight]

You flying a Mustang?

 

[tgriffin]

nope.. That just seemed a little high.

 

[siucavflight]

Really? I did not think so if he was going to be running the flight department. That is why it is important to know in what type of pilot capacity the original poster will be acting. Will he be considered the chief pilot or just a contract pilot? Will he be flying for an individual or a corporation?

 

[countbat]

It would be for an individual, single pilot operation, based in Europe. Pilot responsible for everything

 

[siucavflight]

In Europe I would have no idea, in the states I would expect well into six figures.

 

[400A]

I would not expect anywhere near six figures. I would check NBAA / Pro Pilot and expect to get what 500/501/550 guys are getting.

Single Pilot Premiere guys in our area are getting 75-85K. Bigger than a Mustang. Hope that helps.

 

[Tgaug6300]

CB,

You may want to contact the guys at www.Flyblink.com . They are a great group of guys and they could give you a pretty accurate answer.

 

[siucavflight]

I would not expect anywhere near six figures. I would check NBAA / Pro Pilot and expect to get what 500/501/550 guys are getting.

Single Pilot Premiere guys in our area are getting 75-85K. Bigger than a Mustang. Hope that helps.

Wow, if that is correct I am very surprised. I know a company that has a CJ3, with only one pilot and he is considered the Chief. Paying him 165K. Guess there is a very wide range out there.

 

[kingairyahoo]

Wow, if that is correct I am very surprised. I know a company that has a CJ3, with only one pilot and he is considered the Chief. Paying him 165K. Guess there is a very wide range out there.

...hence my suggestion in post 3

...it wasnt to be smartass, but owners USUALLY have a range in their head beforehand. if you fit the range, they will hire you...if not they will find someone else , and we all know theres ALWAYS someone willing to do it for less

...in my experience, this holds even more true overseas than in the US. at least stateside you can make a case for a larger salary. overseas they just lose your contact info and ignore your emails

 

[400A]

Wow, if that is correct I am very surprised. I know a company that has a CJ3, with only one pilot and he is considered the Chief. Paying him 165K. Guess there is a very wide range out there.

I have seen numbers like that on the west coast and northeast, but I would say that is very rare everywhere else.

 

[400A]

NBAA As follows.

Jet I Chief Pilot (less than 10,000 lbs)(Mustang is 8730) N/A

Jet II (10K-20K) avg $91,000

Turbo Prop II >12,500 = $82,728 avg
Turbo Prop I <12,500 = $76,280 avg

 

[siucavflight]

I have seen numbers like that on the west coast and northeast, but I would say that is very rare everywhere else.

Wow, I guess my buddy is lucky, I kind of assumed that what he was being paid was the norm.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Demand 175-250K for running a Citation Mustang?

There's some internet numbers for ya!

 

[siucavflight]

There is nothing wrong with asking for it.

 

[400A]

There is nothing wrong with asking for it.

Assuming you don't really want the job.

 

[siucavflight]

I guess you could look at it that way.

I know that when I asked on this board what I thought I should ask for pay, most were saying that I should ask for an amount that was about 60K less then what they wound up paying me. So it does not hurt to ask for a lot, and then you can go from there.

 

[400A]

I have no problem asking for top of the scale pay, or even slightly over, but I have found that asking for twice the average pay for the type involved, might get your resume tossed.

Not flaming here, just a friendly discussion. I do not have any problem with someone negotiating. Your experience in a G550 will probably be very different than the guy that bought a single pilot jet. From my experience if they are too cheap to pay 2 pilots, they are not normally going to over pay the single pilot.

The way my boss puts it: "pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered." :laugh:

 

[siucavflight]

You are right 400, I was wrong when I told him the amount that I did. I was relating the pay to someone I knew who was a chief pilot on a CJ3, I thought his pay was the norm, but as it turns out he is paid well above the norm.
But I would start asking for the absolute highest pay possible for that equipment and work down from there. If you are at the point where you are negotiating pay you most likely have the job.

 

[X man]

C-510

Depends on where you will be in Europe, and will you have to pay local taxes on that salary. Ask for Euro's around 85k to 95K per year, plus a car, if you are going to manage the aircraft.

Cheers