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Jacob and Emma's Daddy. Didn't you do nothing at CCAIR but complain and b*tch? Just kidding. I hope the family is well. Hey gotta give you credit the day you got into it with 9-5 and #2 you told them, in the old D Con crewroom where they could go and what they can do with themselves.
 
Drill Sgt. Dad said:
Jacob and Emma's Daddy. Didn't you do nothing at CCAIR but complain and b*tch? Just kidding. I hope the family is well. Hey gotta give you credit the day you got into it with 9-5 and #2 you told them, in the old D Con crewroom where they could go and what they can do with themselves.
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Are you talking about the old D Con crew room with the huge glass walled smoking room facing the BA 777(facing the approach end of 23?)? The same crew room that Mesa crews would microwave some of the nastiest smelling things known to man and then DH for half price? I miss that crew room.
 
Drill Sgt.
I am still around. PM me if you don't have my cellphone number. (I have had the same cell # for the past nine years). I did get into it with 9-5 and #2. But I went to High School with #2 and he has known me way back when I was thinner and full head of hair, so I was sort of able to get away with it. Plus I am now nine years older and learned to control my temper. The issue at hand was a 16 hour duty day for the third straight day as I was starting to wear down. You knew how RSVs could get used and abused over there when we were short handed.
And as for Forever FO, yes, it was the old D cOn crew room with the lovely view of Nigel's B777 and I was trying to forget about that nasty micorwave in the crewroom. I remember when they got the cable TV, and one morning I was watching A & E back when the Three Stooges were on and 9-5 walked by and saw me watching and shook his head. I commented I was watching slapstick comedy of three guys named Pete, Kenny and Ed.
Moe as Pete. Kenny as Larry. And Ed as Curley.
 
As the 3 stooges are classic comedy, you old schoolers were more classic! Nothing like having a good laugh at the expense of your CPs and they laughing as well with no harm done.

9-5 hired me, could of fired me but I swear loved me at the same time! Hope Ed is well wherever he is. What a great CP!
 
Hey ex-chicken drivers! Furr-b*rger put up a group on Yahoo called "CCAir friends" Lot of ol' peeps up on that site. PM me if you need it.

Alf
 
J and E's Daddy said:
The issue at hand was a 16 hour duty day for the third straight day as I was starting to wear down.
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Sweet Jesus! Before anyone claims that isn't possible- it sure as heck is (don't assume you start at the same time every day)! How in theeee hayull did you stay awake?

Don't tell me they didn't give you the comp rest! Was that the issue?
 
VeeOne said:
CC Air fought hard and got an industry leading 19 seat aircraft payscale. Ornstein bought them out, liquidated them, and dumped the pilots out on the street. ALPA didn't fight for their integration into the Mesa seniority list. This is how I understand it- I never worked there.
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NoNoNo....That was WestAir/United Express in 1994-1998, out in Calif. This is how I understand it and yes I worked there. Good old Mesa....
 
Fred Rogers said:
So wait a minute, I'd like an official tally. How many people (airlines) has JO screwed over?
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JO screwed over those at Westair and CCAIR. Even a previous post about what the Hon. Graham Muellen said that it won't save CCAIR, when a few tried to sue ALPA. JO got what he wanted when Mesa conquered CCAIR. CLT gate space!!! and a way to get the RJs and operations on the East Coast. JO had no intention to keep CCAIR around after their agreement with US Airways was up. And like Westair, he didn't recognize CCAIR as Mesa employees. He merely used CCAIR to whipsaw the pilot groups to get what he wanted. Enough said, it only raises my blood pressure when I think about it.
 
Sig said:
Sweet Jesus! Before anyone claims that isn't possible- it sure as heck is (don't assume you start at the same time every day)! How in theeee hayull did you stay awake?

Don't tell me they didn't give you the comp rest! Was that the issue?
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That's how I got my rest, called in fatigued.
 
foreverfo said:
As the 3 stooges are classic comedy, you old schoolers were more classic! Nothing like having a good laugh at the expense of your CPs and they laughing as well with no harm done.

9-5 hired me, could of fired me but I swear loved me at the same time! Hope Ed is well wherever he is. What a great CP!
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9-5 is at the FAA. i am not sure whether he's at the CLT or GSO FSDO.
His sidekick Kenny H. is at the CLT FSDO. I hear Kuhndog is there as well.
 
Didn't JO have a hand in tanking Lake Havasu Airlines?
I worked with a lady at an FBO out there, she worked there at Lake Havasu Air, said JO came in for a couple of days and fired her on his way out because she questioned him.
 
DX Rick said:
Didn't JO have a hand in tanking Lake Havasu Airlines?
I worked with a lady at an FBO out there, she worked there at Lake Havasu Air, said JO came in for a couple of days and fired her on his way out because she questioned him.
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See this is kind of what I'm asking, how many airlines total did JO screw over?

CCAir, WestJet, Lake Havasu...

Does Midwest Express fit in there somewhere? Does Freedom Count? I know there are more of these tiny airlines that he gobbled up in the process. I suppose one could make the arguement that he has helped lower the pay at ALL airlines.
 
Fred Rogers said:
See this is kind of what I'm asking, how many airlines total did JO screw over?

CCAir, WestJet, Lake Havasu...

Does Midwest Express fit in there somewhere? Does Freedom Count? I know there are more of these tiny airlines that he gobbled up in the process. I suppose one could make the arguement that he has helped lower the pay at ALL airlines.
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Screw over directly? I'm guessing 4
Indirectly....all regionals.
 
Fred Rogers said:
See this is kind of what I'm asking, how many airlines total did JO screw over?

CCAir, WestJet, Lake Havasu...

Does Midwest Express fit in there somewhere? Does Freedom Count? I know there are more of these tiny airlines that he gobbled up in the process. I suppose one could make the arguement that he has helped lower the pay at ALL airlines.
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I suppose you could make that aguement about ALPA as well.
 
If we are talking strictly Mesa...the list is even larger. Mesa has acquired more airlines than any other domestic careerer in the last 20 years...

Air Midwest
Liberty
Florida Gulf
(add more)
 
ALPA or not JO's intent was to dismantle CCAIR once he got his foot in the door on the East Coast. He only used CCAIR to whipsaw the two groups and to beat the other into submission.
 

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