CBP Facility to be Opened in Abu Dhabi

[General Lee]

God this thread sounds like a bunch of 5th graders trying to see who's #ick is bigger. For those who have decided on making the desert or another foreign carrier their career, good for you. I am glad that you upgrade quickly, fly good equipment, and benefits are handsome. However, you also need to realize the number of US pilots who have the ability to live your life is probably under 1%. Sure when we're 25 and single, or heck 45 and single, it's extremely easy. And yes there are families over there as well, but good luck finding many wives who would move their kids to the desert so dad can pull gear on a 777. There's not many. And if you've found that special someone, congrats, but don't give me the "you can have this life too if you want it" attitude. For most of us it's unattainable...period. Families should come before this job, and if they don't then shame on you.

What should be proposed is a level playing field....no more gov't backed entities in the UAE, no more Em-Im backed loans, and no more US dollars going to invest in oil rich countries. When you have this you have competition. Let the US open up it's cities to more UAE flights, and see what happens. One thing is for certain, the level of service from the US airlines will have to change. PERIOD!

Most of what you said was true, family life and adjusting to UAE laws and bias might be tough. It's not for everyone. And, US airline service needs to improve, and I have noticed a big change in hiring, new interiors, lie flat seats, menus, etc. The big 3 are trying. But, US anti discrimination laws etc don't allow for firing due to age, etc. While people make fun of that, they fail to see a possible 30 day jail sentence for kissing your girlfriend in public in the UAE. Which is worse? The big 3 US airlines are now trying to offer early out buy outs for senior staff members, and other senior employees. It's a start, but it is happening.



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[General Lee]

Jet Airways eyes global footprint via Abu Dhabi
Saurabh Sinha,TNN | Apr 20, 2013, 04.07AM IST


NEW DELHI: This could be the biggest ever global footprint plan firmed up by an Indian carrier. Jet Airways has decided to link 23 Indian cities to numerous points in the US (including a nonstop to San Francisco), Gulf, east Africa and Europe via Abu Dhabi. These flights will be in addition to the nonstops it operates directly from India to the west and Southeast Asia, which are going to be increased also.

Jet's has submitted its ambitious expansion plan to the aviation ministry at a time when the airline is all set to sell 24% stake to Abu Dhabi's Etihad for close to Rs 1,600 crore and hopes to get access to the oil rich emirate's low-cost funding. The airline, which currently has 100 aircraft in its fleet, has told the government it is in talks with Boeing to place a massive order for Boeing 737 Max and 777s.

According to the plan, Jet will kick-start this expansion by operating its wide-body aircraft like the Boeing 777 and Airbus A-330 from Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore, Chennai (in first phase) and Hyderabad, Cochin and Trivandrum (in second phase) to Abu Dhabi. Replicating its 'scissor' operation of Brussels on a much larger scale, these aircraft will then fly onwards to US cities like San Francisco, Washington, New York, Newark and Chicago. After a quick turnaround, these aircraft will then fly to the Indian metros via Abu Dhabi.

Jet's narrow-body Boeing 737, which will be deployed from other 19 cities, will be used to fly further on to nearby destinations in the Gulf and even some points in Africa.

The network planning of Jet given to the ministry indicates that all flights to Abu Dhabi from 23 Indian cities will leave at late night and reach there by midnight. The flights from India will reach there in time to for onward journeys on Etihad and Jet. The airline has told the ministry that as this model stabilizes after two to three years, it will connect Europe also via Abu Dhabi.

In addition to the flights via Abu Dhabi, Jet has sought more flying points in Europe like Paris, Zurich, Dusseldorf, Berlin, Amsterdam, Manchester, Copenhagen and Barcelona to India. The airline expects a substantial passenger load on these flights to be of passengers flying between Europe and its other destination in Southeast Asia and China where it plans to restart operations to Shanghai.

Since implementing this plan will require a substantial addition to the fleet size, Jet has told the government that it will get back 5 widebody B-777s by next year that are leased to Thai Airways. The airline has an option for five A-330s and is in talks with Boeing to place an order for more B-777s. The Dreamliner B-787 will join its fleet from 2014.




Looks like EY will try to gain access through Jet Airways, but that will stifle some of their own growth. The European Gov'ts will be watching, and again almost zero US passengers will fly from SFO, JFK, or IAD to Abu Dhabi and then back track to Europe. This siphons off pax going from the US to India or Pakistan, but not the US to Asia. Too far. But, European airlines will have to watch it. Also, even with an injection of capital from EY, Jet Airways still is a hurting Indian Airline. They haven't been doing well as a bunch lately.




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[Golden Falcon]

possible 30 day jail sentence for kissing your girlfriend in public in the UAE.

you left out the part "in front of a hotel full of prostitutes"

 

[General Lee]

possible 30 day jail sentence for kissing your girlfriend in public in the UAE.

you left out the part "in front of a hotel full of prostitutes"

You should watch the "welcome film" for Qantas crews for their Dubai flights. Very informative, and "interesting...." Is Bahrain the same? Interesting news coming out of there too a year or so ago.


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[Freight Dog]

General, you do realize that a good number of us live here (DXB), right?

Yes, I've seen the video and yes I'm very familiar with the two cases. And again, I'll tell you this, I see more tight skirts, G-strings and hot looking women here than I ever did living in Hawaii or even SoCal. I happen to live in a tower right by the most popular beach in Dubai - it's literally downstairs and I can see it from my terrace. Let's just say that you don't know a quarter of what goes on in Dubai.

EK is a friggin' f$&kfest! So many single girls in their 20's and 30's and want to get hitched... and preferably to someone with a western passport. Par for the course, man. Similar goes for EY... Some wives see this and they automatically make things miserable for their hubbies. I reckon this is where Delta wins hands down - the wives see your FA's and all the worries are gone...

Don't read too much into stuff you read. The laws are indeed there, but they're about as enforced as sodomy laws in the South.

 

[General Lee]

General, you do realize that a good number of us live here (DXB), right?

Yes, I've seen the video and yes I'm very familiar with the two cases. And again, I'll tell you this, I see more tight skirts, G-strings and hot looking women here than I ever did living in Hawaii or even SoCal. I happen to live in a tower right by the most popular beach in Dubai - it's literally downstairs and I can see it from my terrace. Let's just say that you don't know a quarter of what goes on in Dubai.

EK is a friggin' f$&kfest! So many single girls in their 20's and 30's and want to get hitched... and preferably to someone with a western passport. Pat for the course, man.

Don't read too much into stuff you read. The laws are indeed there, but they're about as enforced as sodomy laws in the South.

Sounds great for married expats bringing their families over, right? A Fu$$fest? Really? What do the families think back in "the Villa?" Sounds fun if you are a 32 year old single 777 Capt for EK! It's awesome you know a guy just like that! That would be extremely frustrating if you were married and actually loved your wife and wanted to keep her and the two kids..... Sounds like torture.
How many guys go over to Sandpit married, and then come home single? Is that counted in the monetary package?


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[Freight Dog]

Sounds great for married expats bringing their families over, right? A Fu$$fest? Really? What do the families think back in "the Villa?" Sounds fun if you are a 32 year old single 777 Capt for EK! It's awesome you know a guy just like that! That would be extremely frustrating if you were married and actually loved your wife and wanted to keep her and the two kids..... Sounds like torture.
How many guys go over to Sandpit married, and then come home single? Is that counted in the monetary package?


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Actually, I'm a married guy with my family here. Wife doesn't want to go back to the US, but then again she's former military too. We have a fun life here... beach activities, sampling fine dining at various upscale restaurants, going to beach clubs at the nearby 5-star resorts (free with EPC membership), haven't gone 4-wheeling in the desert this spring, but it's an activity we like to do as well during the season which runs about 8 months of the year.

In the offseason (summer), we travel during my days off. This summer, my family will go vacation in the US.

My friend that you're referring to is actually happily married and arrived here like that. They just had a baby. Prior to having a baby, they used to go on various cruises a few times a year and go visit family back in the US.

Bottom line General, you can find happiness or you can choose to be miserable pretty much wherever you are - Atlanta, NY, LAX or Dubai, but things in Dubai - all things considered, aren't too bad at all. This ain't Riyadh - might as well be on another planet even though its in the same region. Not to say I don't have bad days here, but had them in SoCal and Hawaii just the same... I do however make a lot more money here and get to do way more than I ever did back home...

 

[fareview]

No use in arguing with GL.

He knows our wives & lives are unhappy because he reads pprune & talked to an EK pilot in DUS.

He does the same with every other airline on the boards (even the regionals)

So back to to the facts.

What is the hire date of the most jnr 777 Capt at DAL who does NOT have a RSV roster.

Just the answer - I'm not making any judgements. Just want to know thanks.

fv

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Taking what's written on PPrune as a good indication of what life is at any company or country/city, is as stupid as taking tax advice from a pilot.

 

[General Lee]

No use in arguing with GL.

He knows our wives & lives are unhappy because he reads pprune & talked to an EK pilot in DUS.

He does the same with every other airline on the boards (even the regionals)

So back to to the facts.

What is the hire date of the most jnr 777 Capt at DAL who does NOT have a RSV roster.

Just the answer - I'm not making any judgements. Just want to know thanks.

fv

Here you go again, comparing planes. What is the junior Capt on a DL 777 and not a reserve? Maybe 25 years with the company? ( the company has 18 777s and 16 744s?) That would be close. The 737-800 Capt at DL with 21 years probably has a better lifestyle, lives at HOME, and enjoys his job in a stress free environment (no threat of sudden termination). Comparing your planes without adding the SPF 200 sunscreen and DXB traffic means little. Overall, you are way over there near Iran, and I am not, vacationing in Southern Florida as we speak. I don't have to worry about breaking "PDA" laws, and huge retirement numbers at all of the US Legacies will help progression, all the way up to that 777 Capt slot, but enjoying it all the way without Lahore all night turns. You can have that.


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[Sgt. Hartman]

I'm guessing that someone with the time and obsession to make over 17,000 posts doesn't have to worry about "breaking PDA laws" if you catch my drift.....your laptop screen doesn't count.

Smooch Smooch---Sgt. Hartman

 

[General Lee]

I'm guessing that someone with the time and obsession to make over 17,000 posts doesn't have to worry about "breaking PDA laws" if you catch my drift.....your laptop screen doesn't count.

Smooch Smooch---Sgt. Hartman

Hahaha. When you can't debate, you go after the post numbers. Classic. Hey Sarge, I don't think you will ever have even one post with meaning or something of value. Nope, not even one you meat head.


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[General Lee]

Taking what's written on PPrune as a good indication of what life is at any company or country/city, is as stupid as taking tax advice from a pilot.

Uhhhhh, not really. It shows what disgruntled, unhappy pilots feel about the mistake they just made flying for that particular airline, something all perspective recruits should read. Are you going to trust the Contractor companies that place you with the Foreign airlines? They are in this business to make money. Are you going to trust the airline website? How about road shows? Who exactly does those FOR the companies? You trust them?

Wow Dumb Pilot, your screen name may fit....


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[Dumb Pilot]

Uhhhhh, not really. It shows what disgruntled, unhappy pilots feel about the mistake they just made flying for that particular airline, something all perspective recruits should read. Are you going to trust the Contractor companies that place you with the Foreign airlines? They are in this business to make money. Are you going to trust the airline website? How about road shows? Who exactly does those FOR the companies? You trust them?

Wow Dumb Pilot, your screen name may fit....


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I rest my case!

 

[flyboyike]

...and huge retirement numbers at all of the US Legacies will help progression, all the way up to that 777 Capt slot...

I've been waiting for those huge retirement numbers since 1999. They've been right around the corner the whole time.