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As far as ANC being junior, it is but you must have competitive minimums for the freighter. Most people being hired on the freighter have a minimum of 4000 hours and 1000 turbine pic or better. If you are interested, fill out the online application and shoot it over. Huge growth going on for the next few years, we need a lot of pilots in a short period of time. Good luck.

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Wish I could downgrade to SO. 3 years off with pay!
 
We are planning to increase our fleet by 43% in the next three years.

I heard that most of the orders they have are going to replace the under-performing A343 and A346.... so there's not going to be THAT much growth. Is that true?
Thanks
 
"As far as SO at Cathay. I have been here for a little over three months now. This month I worked 13 days. Next month I work 13 days. Most of my trips start on the night of the first day and are back on the morning of the fourth day. box"
Box,
Will a really junior SO be awarded long stretches of days off, say 6 or 7+ in a row? Just wondering how I am going to make it back to LA each month to stay current in the guard. Thanks.
 
"As far as SO at Cathay. I have been here for a little over three months now. This month I worked 13 days. Next month I work 13 days. Most of my trips start on the night of the first day and are back on the morning of the fourth day. box"
Box,
Will a really junior SO be awarded long stretches of days off, say 6 or 7+ in a row? Just wondering how I am going to make it back to LA each month to stay current in the guard. Thanks.


Deing a DESO would be tough commuting back and forth.....your best bet would be DEFO LAX based.
 
As far as long stretches of days off go. Most months you will have a group of at least 5-6 days off in a row, and sometimes as many as 10. The problem with SO is you do a sim every 2 months. Many times they will stick it right in the middle of your days off. Could make it difficult to make it back every month for the guard. Every other month is definitely doable though. As for the 340 replacement. I think that the -600 will be going away, but I'm not sure about the -300. I would say as more 773er's come on board, the 340 will go away completely. According to our CEO in a recent interview, our fleet will be more than 180 aircraft by 2010. We currently have just over 140 with Dragon Air. That is a fleet growth of nearly 40 AC in three years. The classics are slated to go away by around 2012 I think, and will probably be replaced by -400 freighters. Any way you shake it, we are in a huge growth cycle. If you are interested in CX, probably a good time to join. Good luck.

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"Deing a DESO would be tough commuting back and forth.....your best bet would be DEFO LAX based."

I'd take DEFO LAX in a heartbeat, but I've had my app in for over 2 years and I just now got the invite to interview for an SO position. My feeling is it's better to get hired on now as an SO in the pax fleet as opposed to waiting 1.5-2 years longer to build turbine PIC time to be competitive for the DEFO on the cargo fleet. Seniority is everything right? If it means sucking it up and commuting back to the guard until I can bid for FO in LAX than I'm prepared to deal with it. Wifey is cool with the idea too. If hiring continues at a good pace I might not have to sit SO for long anyhoo.
 
Definitely best idea to get on-board as soon as possible. We are a seniority driven airline, even though that's definitely not the only factor. Most people when joining as a SO, stay on the pax fleet due to the money being better in HKG. Should be pretty easy for you to move back to the freight fleet if you like. Study hard for the interview, and make sure they know you want to move to HKG. Good luck.

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"Deing a DESO would be tough commuting back and forth.....your best bet would be DEFO LAX based."

I'd take DEFO LAX in a heartbeat, but I've had my app in for over 2 years and I just now got the invite to interview for an SO position. My feeling is it's better to get hired on now as an SO in the pax fleet as opposed to waiting 1.5-2 years longer to build turbine PIC time to be competitive for the DEFO on the cargo fleet. Seniority is everything right? If it means sucking it up and commuting back to the guard until I can bid for FO in LAX than I'm prepared to deal with it. Wifey is cool with the idea too. If hiring continues at a good pace I might not have to sit SO for long anyhoo.


hdodo,

Depending on the roster you choose, your consecutive days off will vary. You can request "Super-compact Rosters" (this will now depend on seniority since RP07). This will give you "at least" 8 days between long haul trips. I have seen 10-12 on average, but then plan to work 8-9 days. Trip swaps will help even more, and being on the -400 you will see LAX quite often.

If your roster has say 13 days off in a row, and you are due for a sim, it's quite comon they will throw that sim on your 9th day.

As far as comming over to the freighter, you can be assesed (interview) as an F/O once completing your S/O line check. I don't reccomend it but it's possible. If you are found suitable AND there are vacancies availible (usually are in North America) you "cannot" start class for your upgrade until your 1 year line check. If you can get the -400 this will also make it a much easier transition.

Other than that i would plan 2.5 years on the pax fleet to upgrade to JFO.
 
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Do Cathay Pacific employees qualify for ZED fares on any carriers? I have an interview in May and was curious if commuting will be an option. How long until a new hire can hold ORD on the freighter? Thanks to anyone who has any insight on commuting at Cathay Pacific.
 
Do Cathay Pacific employees qualify for ZED fares on any carriers? I have an interview in May and was curious if commuting will be an option. How long until a new hire can hold ORD on the freighter? Thanks to anyone who has any insight on commuting at Cathay Pacific.

Splitbar,

ID90 on American
Zed on USAirways

I was told by a USAirways Captain that they allow us to jumpseat if a seat is availible however i don't know if that's written in their books. I was also told we can on Airtran as well. Airtran/USAirways guys help me out with this one as i would like to know for sure as well??

With respect to ORD, what position are you interviewing for? Basing's just depend, i don't think anyone except maybe the basing's office can be sure as to the time frame. ORD seem's to always be full and LAX/JFK always availible.
 
"Deing a DESO would be tough commuting back and forth.....your best bet would be DEFO LAX based."

I'd take DEFO LAX in a heartbeat, but I've had my app in for over 2 years and I just now got the invite to interview for an SO position. My feeling is it's better to get hired on now as an SO in the pax fleet as opposed to waiting 1.5-2 years longer to build turbine PIC time to be competitive for the DEFO on the cargo fleet. Seniority is everything right? If it means sucking it up and commuting back to the guard until I can bid for FO in LAX than I'm prepared to deal with it. Wifey is cool with the idea too. If hiring continues at a good pace I might not have to sit SO for long anyhoo.

I applied and got hired as a DEFO with 100 hours TPIC.....it is not a requirement for DEFO.
 
I thought AA is a ZED carrier
 
I applied and got hired as a DEFO with 100 hours TPIC.....it is not a requirement for DEFO.

You must have met the 1000 hours "Airline Jet Transport" mins or something?

Although I am trained and qualified to fly left seat in the C-130, I don't meet any of the below requirements since I have not upgraded to Aircraft Commander (i.e. Captian or guy who signs for the airplane) yet. I have plenty of combined Turbo Prop time and corporate jet time to meet the mins, just not as "Command". Maybe I am interpreting their basic quals wrong:confused: . My brain hurts

A minimum of 1000 hours in one of the following categories:
  1. Airline Jet Transport
  2. Command Turbo Prop (MAUW greater than 20,000 Kgs)
  3. High Performance Military Jet
  4. Corporate Jet Command
By the way if anyone is interested in more detailed info regarding potential upgrade times and requirements from SO to JFO on the pax fleet I ran across this great thread at pprune:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=247307&referrerid=166626

By the way, thanks a bunch to all CX folks who have provided good info to us knowledge thirsty wannabes.
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hdodo
 
You must have met the 1000 hours "Airline Jet Transport" mins or something?

Although I am trained and qualified to fly left seat in the C-130, I don't meet any of the below requirements since I have not upgraded to Aircraft Commander (i.e. Captian or guy who signs for the airplane) yet. I have plenty of combined Turbo Prop time and corporate jet time to meet the mins, just not as "Command". Maybe I am interpreting their basic quals wrong:confused: . My brain hurts

A minimum of 1000 hours in one of the following categories:
  1. Airline Jet Transport
  2. Command Turbo Prop (MAUW greater than 20,000 Kgs)
  3. High Performance Military Jet
  4. Corporate Jet Command
By the way if anyone is interested in more detailed info regarding potential upgrade times and requirements from SO to JFO on the pax fleet I ran across this great thread at pprune:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=247307&referrerid=166626

By the way, thanks a bunch to all CX folks who have provided good info to us knowledge thirsty wannabes.
:beer:
hdodo

hdodo,

No, you only "need" one of the 4. PIC time is not "required" however is definately a big help for the DEFO. I have been up to the recruitment this week office for a friend of mine and.....

3000TT with 1000 multi crew/turbine is the magical time for an S/O interview. This is not the minimums, but is competitive and what they want before they make the phone call.

DEFO - 4000TT with lots of Turbine, preference to PIC or Heavy Jet backgrounds is competitive OR Military guys with much lower times. Almost all the North American freighter guys i know meet this. However their are S/O's who met this as well :confused:

Now some guys post saying they were interviewed for DEFO with less experiance. Well, that may be the case but doesn't seem to be normal practice.
 
I was also told we can on Airtran as well

Official policy says AirTran does not allow any foreign airline employees to jumpseat.
 
You must have met the 1000 hours "Airline Jet Transport" mins or something?

:beer:
hdodo

Yes you are right. I didn't realize that. I had over 1000 'airline jet transport'. I specifically checked the DEFO box on my app when I applied. I had at the time 3600 total, 2000 121 turbine(100 or so PIC). All 121 regional airline. I applied as soon as I got my ATP and I happen to live in one of the North America freighter ports. Perhaps that is why I got called. Good luck.
 

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