Carrying liquids while not it uniform? B.S.!!!!

[JettBoii]

Wear your uniform; less clothes to pack.

 

[dispatchguy]

exempt by being in uniform and with proper ID

What about dispatchers, who in civvies ARE in their proper work uniform?

 

[TCBKING]

I was in this profession when you were probably in diapers. As a professional, my security director published directives that you must be in uniform to expect the exemption, so I comply. I did see the letter from TSA to the airlines to this effect. Now what this profession does not need are people who want to dance around politically sensitive issues such as this. I was pleased that we were exempt by being in uniform and with proper ID. If this gets out of hand soon it will be allowed for crews only working a flight or not at all. This crap about changing back into civvies and waving at TSA is stupid beyond all belief. I don't care for TSA any more than the next pilot, but I do have less hassles by following directives. Grow up !!!!

I stand by what I said. And if you were in this profession when I was in diapers then you are probably back in diapers and thankfully you will be retiring soon. If you think that it is important that we be in uniform to get around these TSA rules as opposed to using our crew issued IDs, then you are a moron. This is not a politically sensitive issue. This is typical BS red tape the we have to deal with that makes absolutely ZERO sense. How hard is it for a terrorist to buy a Pilot Uniform? Yet that is what it seems will keep everybody safe. A Uniform.

Most of these idiots that work TSA do not even know their own regs. I tried to get thru security with my uniform IN COMPLIANCE., yet they still wanted my liquids and gels because I was not operating the flight. After losing the linguistic battle of: "your misinterpreting the rules", "no im not", "yes you are", "no Im not" I convinced them I would be a crew member if I was jumpseating. So I got out of security, got my jumpseat form and proceeded thru with my gels and toothpaste, after they made it a point to check my ID again. ( Yes, same group of our nations finest, who checked my ID 10 minutes earlier).

Tell me how convienient and less hastling that is Einstein. It is already out of hand. Our backround checks and the nature of what we do should allow us to sail through security hastle free. What bothers me is people like you who will sit there and say "Thank you sir May I have another" as the 19 year old security expert is removing his Nike running shoe from your Arse. What I am worried about is the terrorist that is smarter than our braintrust with TSA.

What I am saying as well as everyone else here, is that our TSA needs to refocus on the important threats, and new more sensible methods. Like Examining and authenticating IDs. Maybe a whole new crew identifying procedure. Its frustrating enough in this day and age.

There will be an Osama Bin Laden lover who counterfits a crew ID and buys a pilot uniform from Sportys. And WALLA, has a 2 liter of boom boom juice. At least he was compliant right N32jerk.

 

[Headfake14]

Anyway I asked where the rule was that a ID carrying pilot hast to have a uniform on, he said its on the TSA website. I did a search andI couldnt find it. Does anybody have a link to this rule on the TSA site?

in MHT the other day...lost most of my stuff. My first time non-reving after the liquid thing. Did not have my uniform with me. I asked the TSA tool about it...he was fairly nice, pulled out a 3 ring binder and I saw a page labeled "exemptions" and it said something like "pilot in uniform" yada yada.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

This is what I do. If they want to waste my time I'll waste their time. I make them watch me take my epiluets, wings, name tag, and tie out and put them on in front of everyone. I haven't really had this problem anywhere except SEA so far.

The TSA morons in SLC are a problem too!

 

[TWA Dude]

No surprise the commuting pilot rule is not consistently followed. A couple months ago I went to Vegas to lose money and traveled in uniform each way.

There have been problems in LAS but they should be okay now. Lots of AWA commuters so we jump on our chief pilots whenever there's issues. Last week I went through security for the D concourse, where the TSA knows that AWA doesn't operate from, without any issue. The rule doesn't state the pilot must be on duty, just in uniform.

 

[flyslow24]

This has worked for me the last 3 times while out of uniform jumpseating/commuting with liquids, ect.

Go through the detector... Stop and smile at the lady running the x-ray machine with your crew badge showing and say "hey how's it going" or something very nice. They see your bags in the machine and your id and on with the show. I'm 3 for 3 with this.


G'luck

 

[crashpad]

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Deleted for reasons of super-duper-secret-national security.....which, thank God, is in the hands of the stupidest fu#king morons this country has to offer!

 

[CA1900]

I just figured they spotted the crew bags by the tacky polo shirt and the box of condoms, but what do I know....

 

[Booker]

Flip a small round coin container upside down before and after your bag.

You mean those doggy dishes? What's funny to me is they don't do that at my base airport. Supposedly we go through the employees-only line, but the ID checkers still let through any illiterate mouth-breather who stumbles up. Like CA1900 says, the prophylactics must tip the screeners off to the crew bags.

 

[vectorvictor]

Isn't just easiest to wear the uniform?

 

[Headfake14]

Go through the detector... Stop and smile at the lady running the x-ray machine with your crew badge showing and say "hey how's it going" or something very nice.

spanked one on the a$$ the other day and she STILL took my prophylactics:angryfire

 

[mamba20]

The TSA is the biggest waste of money in the history of wastes of money. The only thing that came out of the whole Homeland Security thing was more beaurocracy. The things that really need to be put in check to make this country safer i.e. securing borders hasnt been touched. Apparently there are some out there (stupid mexico) that dont think we have the right to do that.

Meanwhile we give a huge raise to the secrity screeners that did a fine job before 9/11 (remember those bastards didn't have anything illegal or suspicious on their person). and cut the quality of personel way down. They are nothing but ghetto or trailer trash depending on the geography of the airport. They are all worthless human beings and I hate them simply for existing. The TSA are a bunch of snotnosed uneducated nazi wannabe's who deserve no respect whatsoever. I think it was EWR a couple of months ago that failed 11 of 13 total security tests. But we as pilots are such a huge risk. After all, we are the ones who have passed the 10th grade and an FBI background check.

 

[mamba20]

And for you english professors out there, I know I can't spell and I dont care!

 

[Stifler's Mom]

How about surround your bags with one of those TSA dog bowl dishes on each side?

 

[Turtlesfly]

EWR...TSA Delta concourse has been the worst I have seen...
God forbid you carry your clear ziplock with a 3oz or less bottle of anything unless it has a factory label on it. "crest" etc.
I had a couple "container store" clear leak proof generic bottles that were 1.5 oz that they made me throw out because they couldn't verify what was in it...(no label) The yahoos in ASE are almost as bad.

There is no D concourse in EWR

 

[XLR8]

Maybe the Delta Airlines terminal??? That's why "Delta" should be changed to "Dixie".

 

[Drill Sgt. Dad]

I recently commuted out of uniform. I had the 3 oz of shaving cream, a mini tube of toothpaste and a travel stick of mennen spped stick. It fit in a 1/2 quart bag, and I got yelled at by the security checkpoint gestapo for not having it in a 1 quart size bag instead of a 1/2 quart size bag. How stupid can they really be?

 

[vectorvictor]

I recently commuted out of uniform. I had the 3 oz of shaving cream, a mini tube of toothpaste and a travel stick of mennen spped stick. It fit in a 1/2 quart bag, and I got yelled at by the security checkpoint gestapo for not having it in a 1 quart size bag instead of a 1/2 quart size bag. How stupid can they really be?

Never underestimate your adversary.

 

[Booker]

How about surround your bags with one of those TSA dog bowl dishes on each side?

See my post, #40. Crashpad edited his post, #38, for reasons of national security. Maybe I should do the same...

Nah, I'll leave that up to the mods and the MIBs. Hang on, there's someone at the door...

 

[vclean]

I recently commuted out of uniform. I had the 3 oz of shaving cream, a mini tube of toothpaste and a travel stick of mennen spped stick. It fit in a 1/2 quart bag, and I got yelled at by the security checkpoint gestapo for not having it in a 1 quart size bag instead of a 1/2 quart size bag. How stupid can they really be?

Logic like this makes sense when you consider the talent the TSA hires. Most of the public is exceedingly overqualified. It's not hard to imagine the boredom we would endure after 1/2 hour scanning bags and shoes. The TSA probably has a pre-employment cognitive test for applicants. Those scoring higher than a baggage cart are encouraged to apply at Burger King.

So next time you are harassed at a TSA checkpoint, have pity on the screeners, at least they're working and not on a government entitlement program.

Make small talk like "I love your nails, how did you get them so long and curled?", or, "I think that NASCAR tattoo is really cool, where can I get one?"

Do this and perhaps they'll be so distracted, they won't see your non-compliant items.

Good luck,

 

[FlySacto]

Logic like this makes sense when you consider the talent the TSA hires. Most of the public is exceedingly overqualified. It's not hard to imagine the boredom we would endure after 1/2 hour scanning bags and shoes. The TSA probably has a pre-employment cognitive test for applicants. Those scoring higher than a baggage cart are encouraged to apply at Burger King.

So next time you are harassed at a TSA checkpoint, have pity on the screeners, at least they're working and not on a government entitlement program.

Make small talk like "I love your nails, how did you get them so long and curled?", or, "I think that NASCAR tattoo is really cool, where can I get one?"

Do this and perhaps they'll be so distracted, they won't see your non-compliant items.

Good luck,

Great post. You forgot to mention; "Is that your natural hair color?" Seriously though, one of my neighbors has a 19 year old son who's living at home, going to school, and working the gates as TSA. He's a good guy and my neighbor had a poker party the other night and a couple of the younger TSA "kids" were there. Some of the TSA folks get as frustred as we do at some of the policies and the "senior" TSA superstars at the height of their professional careers. I will say though it did feel good to slam one of them TSA guys for about $15.00 on a pot. The full boat rules BOEEY!

 

[XJohXJ]

To all of you "loose lips blah blah blah types".

Don't you think anyone who wants to know more about TSA couldn't just go get a job a TSA? Remember how easy it is to proove citizenship for all those guys taking underpaid work in the old USofA...

 

[Stifler's Mom]

See my post, #40. Crashpad edited his post, #38, for reasons of national security. Maybe I should do the same...

Nah, I'll leave that up to the mods and the MIBs. Hang on, there's someone at the door...

It can't be that big of a secret, especially when I figured it out without anybody telling me. :beer:

 

[Booker]

It can't be that big of a secret, especially when I figured it out without anybody telling me. :beer:

That's what I'm saying. No BFD if it can be discovered through the amazing power of eyesight.