Cargo Fire in PHL

[sandman2122]

 

[sandman2122]

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[sandman2122]

sorry, the f**king hotel computer in KBOI blows.

 

[rubicon789]

No kidding. It's a 9500 foot runway. TW N is about 5000 feet from threshold. High Speed Lima is about 2000' prior to that. To get that beast stopped in 3000' or so really shows their enthusiasm no to die!

Unreal huh... I couldn't believe it myself.

 

[capt. megadeth]

As a pilot of UPS, I'm relieved to find out that the crew is ok. It is going to be interesting to find out what happened. As a cargo pilot, and I'm sure all of you will agree, one of the biggest threats that face us is undeclared cargo. If we find out that it was a package problem, it'll be interesting to see how UPS spins this.

Maybe they will get a million dollar bonus for obviously doing a great job?

Yeah right!

 

[1800 RVR]

Unfortunately, capt., we both know about our benevolent employer, and notice that they have yet to say that the crew did a great job? Who knows, maybe they'll get called in for a meeting for causing so many service failures.

Once again, great job guys!

 

[ColKurtz]

As a pilot of UPS, I'm relieved to find out that the crew is ok. It is going to be interesting to find out what happened. As a cargo pilot, and I'm sure all of you will agree, one of the biggest threats that face us is undeclared cargo. If we find out that it was a package problem, it'll be interesting to see how UPS spins this.



If it is a package problem, the shipper should be prosecuted to the fullest extent if they violated any laws. I have flown the 8 in a past life, and that was always in the back of my mind. Nobody really knows for sure what's in the back of this beast.


Fly safe Boys!

 

[aucfi]

sorry, the f**king hotel computer in KBOI blows.

HAHA thats funny!

Glad they made it down safely. Good job fellas!

 

[jbDC9]

Maybe they will get a million dollar bonus for obviously doing a great job?

Yeah right!

Might happen, ya never know... when I was a US Check C-310 puke I had an prop/engine failure and got it back on the ground in one piece; I got a congratulatory phone call from Uncle Jerry and a $100 bonus check, job well done, yeaa!!!

So, what with inflation and all, and the DC-8 being bigger than a 310, yup, I can see a million $$ bonus...

Not!

 

[Ernst]

Fate is the Hunter

Great job, UPS crew! Seeing the intensity of the fire and reading that it was first detected by the crew only about five miles from their destination made me think about the sad alternative outcome that may have happened had the fire started earlier in their flight.

I personally had an electrical fire inside a Beechjet at night with a new student in the left seat. Fortunately, we were only 30 miles from the home airport in the decent through 13,000' in severe clear VMC and flew 300 KIAS all the way there to get it on the ground. The man upstairs looked out for us that night.

I heard Capt Al Haynes speak about UAL flight 232 in Sioux City and he commented on the divine providence that seems to throw aviators a bone when the chips are down. He said that if they had not been immediately over an airport to which they could spiral down while able only to make right turns, in CAUV daylight conditions, they would not have had any chance of success. By the way, it was the one airport for miles around that had just rehersed a mass causualty drill.

Please be safe out there, look out for our brothers and sisters in the business, lend a helping hand to those aspiring to be where you are, avoid complacency or dejection when management doesn't treat you right and thank your personal savior when life throws you a bone.

Here is something I found Googling for UAL 232 info:

http://yarchive.net/air/airliners/dc10_sioux_city.html

I think there are five factors that contribute to the
degree of success that we had at Sioux City: that is, luck,
communications, preparation, execution, and cooperation. And I would
like to talk about those five things today.

First of all, we all have our own personal beliefs and convictions, and
I would never intrude on yours, so for the sake of discussion, we call
our first factor "luck." You may call it whatever you wish.