Captains that say "I'm laid back"

[Bill Mostellar]

What is with you captains that say "I'm laid back" in the pre-briefing? These are the guys that end up being totally anal every time. As soon as I hear those words from a captain I cringe and say to myself "this is going to be a long 4-day." You know what, the guys that aren't anal are the ones that don't have to self-proclaim their so called laid back nature before flying with someone.

The guys who complain this are the WORST FIRST OFFICERs in the system.

They rarely have the preflight done before reading the checklist, don't read the checklist properly, and constantly have to be reminded about their responsibilites as the pilot-not-flying or whatever you call it at your airline.

I wish you success!
William

BTW - I'm one of the FO's that cringes when I hear "Laid back" or "By the book," but I don't complain about it. I double my efforts to make certain the Captain doesn't get me violated. He doesn't know the difference and usually ends up buying me dinner and saying what a good FO I am.

This is CRM - learn it, live it, love it.

 

[PCL_128]

This thread sucks.

 

[Cardinal]

What is with you captains that say "I'm laid back" in the pre-briefing?

Absolutely guaranteed FOM memorizing, ass-clenching, satan's spawn. Every time. Truly laid back captain's are sufficiently laid back that they are too lazy to bother with unnecessary qualiitative opinions of themselves. What normal human being does that? "Hello, I'm a really good guy, like puppies and long walks on the beach, scored 1590 on my SATs, oh and my name is John, nice to meet you." WTF.

"I'm by the book" is your indication to prepare for unstable approaches, horrible airmanship, and non-standard "this is how the training department is going to have us do it soon" made up mandatory procedures and a double standard for left versus right seats.

This phenomena pisses me off to no end.

 

[Cardinal]

So laid back I clicked Submit twice.

 

[DoubtingThomas]

So laid back I clicked Submit twice.

Excellent recovery good sir.

 

[asa rat]

So what do you prefer to hear on a brief?

 

[dash8driver]

i'm laid back.... now go get me some coffee, beotch!

 

[mamba20]

I think people that do pre-briefings (whatever that is) are not "laid back". Just my .02

Your kidding right? A Captain telling you how he/she likes to run the cockpit, what they require and what they dont. . . etc, etc etc. And you think that defines not being laid back?

Laid back or not a breifing is something the the FAA and the NTSB consider crucial to saftey. I remember I once flew with a guy who didn't do one and it wasn't until we were taking the runway that I found out that I was flying the leg.

 

[BSkin]

I'm really laid back but I do things by the book. WTF

It's very easy to do that, that's WTF! I agree you don't have to brief that.

I heard many different things as an FO. As long as you do your $hit right, and the CA doesn't compromise your's or the PAX safety, who cares? You're either having a beer with the crew, or by yourself.

As a CA for the second time, trust me, there are tools on both sides of the fence. Have to wonder about the thread starter.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Captain leadership training is extremely poor... especialy in the regionals...

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Can someone post a sample briefing.

In the name of all that is holy, DO NOT touch anything that is:

a. Red in color

b. Has dust on it

Thank you.

 

[Traumahawk]

Best F/O's brief: My leg, your tickets. Questions?

 

[BAe3100FO]

I'm laid-back when it's my leg...

I'm by the book when it's yours...

Now where's my coffee? Two creams - Three sugars...

Any questions?

 

[shamrock]

I'm laid-back when it's my leg...

I'm by the book when it's yours...

It wasn't until I upgraded that I found the truth in that statement.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Captain leadership training is extremely poor... especialy in the regionals...

Captain leadership at the majors is pretty poor also there scooter