Capital Cargo versus Amerijet

[nitefr8dog]

Nobody will make anything close to that at Capital or Amerijet.....they are more in line with regional salaries which is why QOL is more important.

My guess is most guys going to Capitol or Amerijet to build time/experience then move on. Commuting 3-4 times a month on flights that are oversold while flying for a regional sucks also. The regional pilots at my crash pad were away from home just as much with crappy commute schedules. 767 International time on the resume looks better than RJ time flying to Ft Wayne. Again all depends what the end game is a flying job or a flying career.

 

[FO 4 Life]

This is gonna sound silly in light of how crappy it is to standby these days, but there is something to be said for jumpseat arrangements and family travel. My mom didn't put up with my crap for years to not be able to travel. I think a regional or another company with a better schedule will suit me better.

Since you don't have the travel bennies yet, you don't know better. When I flew people, travel bennies were pretty good (prior to 9/11). Post 9/11, airlines cut schedules, etc., which filled airplanes and made non-revving difficult at best. Most pilots want to vacation at the same places and same times that the paying public does. I saw too many times families sitting in DFW from the early morning trying to get to their vacation only to be still sitting in the airport at the end of the day.

Also, depending on the airline, your and/or parent travel classification may be lower than other employees. AA/AE employees were the same. Parents were the equal to other employees when travelling with the employee, but lower when travelling without.

Not sure how travel is for a Delta/United/Usair/Continental contract carrier.

 

[27 driver]

If you can't stand to pack for two weeks, stay away from cargo. Nothing worse than flying with a guy that hates being on the road for two weeks or more and is there just to build time!

Dude, most is not all all those ACMI freight outfits are stepping stones with very few exceptions. If I had to chose between Amerijet or Capitol then it is Capitol hands down.

 

[27 driver]

2 weeks on the road nonstop? How do your wives put up with that? And kids? Remember, those little rascals you left at home?

For most their wives prefer it or they end up divorced. For the 8 years I spent doing ACMI freight it was divorce central with most the guys. Some 2 or 3 times. It is not good for family life.

 

[nitefr8dog]

For most their wives prefer it or they end up divorced. For the 8 years I spent doing ACMI freight it was divorce central with most the guys. Some 2 or 3 times. It is not good for family life.

That same scenario was present at the commuter I flew at. Low pay crappy schedules not good. In the 18 years I have flown freight out of 600 plus pilots maybe 10 divorce's. I don't think any airline has better numbers.

 

[laserman2431]

That same scenario was present at the commuter I flew at. Low pay crappy schedules not good. In the 18 years I have flown freight out of 600 plus pilots maybe 10 divorce's. I don't think any airline has better numbers.

Are you saying that only 10 ABX pilots got divorced in 18 years? Or is it the maximum number of divorces was one pilot divorced 10 times during 18 years?

You're post is a little hard to follow.

 

[MDP727]

Capital will provide you with a better commutable sched. However, if your willing to live in south Fl Amerijet would be a good place to start out your career. You will get quite handy with and also sharpen your jet skills in the 727 if that's what your looking for. They typically used to have lots of flying available out of Mia. You can fly your ass off and should be home every night. Where else can you fly a 727 into 2 different 4800' runways?

 

[nitefr8dog]

Are you saying that only 10 ABX pilots got divorced in 18 years? Or is it the maximum number of divorces was one pilot divorced 10 times during 18 years?

You're post is a little hard to follow.

Wow! That tough huh? Let's see 600 or so pilot's total of maybe 10 divorce's. Either way you try to confuse yourself the number is still around 10 out of 600. I was at Air Wisc. 6 mo's and saw that many. My guess is the numbers are spread fairly even across the board, regional, commuter, major, or cargo/acmi cargo the people and numbers of divorces are about the same. Your wife can either think on her feet and handle the problems that pop up when you are gone or not.

 

[B727Driver]

Either choice, you will love flying the 72. Sure beats typing.

 

[Pickle]

Capital will provide you with a better commutable sched. However, if your willing to live in south Fl Amerijet would be a good place to start out your career. You will get quite handy with and also sharpen your jet skills in the 727 if that's what your looking for. They typically used to have lots of flying available out of Mia. You can fly your ass off and should be home every night. Where else can you fly a 727 into 2 different 4800' runways?

Packs off, flaps 25 powering back to use every inch at SVD, number two compressor stalling as you climb out..... Good times, good times......

 

[Midnight Flyer]

The divorce rate is the same at any airline. It's not more or less, just because it's cargo vs people. It depends on your spouse and what they are willing to put up with. Personally, being away for 15 days a month actually strengthens my relationship. But then again, everybody's different.

Capital is definitely better than Amerijet, hands down. IMO, this is your best option. For instance, you only work 1/2 the year, you only go to work 12 times a year (once a month). Company buys you a ticket. You're home based, so no need to waste money on a crashpad. Capital is CASS and has privileges on most airlines, even Intl. Airlines like Capital and Amerijet used to be a place just to build time, then move on, but not so much any more. Capital doesn't have many young pilots like at the regionals, who just want to get time and leave. Most pilots at Capital seem to stick around, mainly because they don't want to start off at the bottom of the list at another airline and be an fo for 10 years. The pay isn't the best at Capital, but it seems to be in line or even a tad better than most regionals. Upgrades seem to come faster than at the regionals. Capital has several 727 Captains that have been there less than a year.
Also, you'll get to tell your friends you fly a 727. This is the last aircraft you'll ever really "fly". Most people I see usually hand fly under 10,000 ft, and all the approaches, so you stay very very good, much better than the "button pushers" on other aircraft.

When I commuted at a prior job, I hated it because by the time you begged for a ride, finally got on and got home, you were exhausted and wound up wasting your first day off catching up on sleep, then you only had a day or two off before you had to start worrying about getting yourself back to work again. And you did this 3-4 times a month.
Hope this helps, but back to your origional question, stay away from Amerijet.

 

[n89l]

Who do you work for ATI JET?

 

[CX880]

Do you have to FE at these places?

 

[CrewDawg]

What kind of time is Capital looking for? Where is training? Seems like they do a lot of flying out of TOL....do they overnight there alot? Any plans of hiring?

 

[Captzaahlie]

Oh boy.....I think you guys answered my questions.

I'm young have a great GF that we will probably get married and have kids in the next few years. 2 weeks is too much I think. This is gonna sound silly in light of how crappy it is to standby these days, but there is something to be said for jumpseat arrangements and family travel. My mom didn't put up with my crap for years to not be able to travel. I think a regional or another company with a better schedule will suit me better.

Mom?
Why don't you let your Mom choose the company for you?
LOL
If you want to fly but dont feel like leaving the house there's always flight instructing. Maybe your MOM could be your first student.....
Now don't start on me cause I'll tell your mom!