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Can you jumpseat for buisness?

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Diesel

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From what i remember you can not use the jumpseat other than pleasure not buisness.

http://www.global-air.com/global/gferry.htm

I see that all these guys jumpseat to cut the costs of ferrying. Isn't that illegal?
 
Well, the problem is that this guy is actually sustaining his business on the ability of others to jumpseat. This would be jumpseat abuse because he is acting in the capacity of an employer. If a pilot received a phone call from a friend and said "hey man, you think you can help me move an aircraft, it's worth $3000" and you are on a day off and it's your personal decision to do this directly then there is no problem in my view. The problem is if you are acting on "behalf of a company" and they require you to be somewhere other than where you are based they must provide transportation. For example, if they say we need an aircraft moved from DFW to MIA and you are in DFW. Then you are in DFW and they say well we made a mistake the aircraft is not coming to DFW it's going to LAX, then they are obligated to provide you transportation. If you try to jumpseat in this instance in my view that would be "jumpseat abuse"

Also this guy sounds like a goof ball anyway. I've ferried a few aircraft (MD80's) and you are splitting $1500-$2000 per day regardless of if you're flying or not. (ie the aircraft is delayed a few days for maintenance) and the company that contracts you typically provides transportation and hotel. That's usually the deal for legitimate operations...
 
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It would be funny if you come up to the gate asking for a jumpseat and the agent ask you "would this be for business or pleasure?"
 
I have a side business and when I recently had to travel to meet with a supplier I purchased a ticket. My impression of jumpseat protocol is that it's primarily for commuting but acceptable to use for leisure travel. If I was travelling for leisure I'd think twice about bumping someone trying to get to work just for karmic reasons alone. To use a jumpseat in connection with a moneymaking venture IMHO would be improper use.
 

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