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commercial Multi. funny thing is, He only asked me questions from 2 of the 9 subject area. He was a real old guy, I dont know if that matters or not
 
Sometimes I think these examiners get bored with the same old boring questions over and over and over again....so they come up with some crazy ass question.

This is my advice for you next time.....when you get asked one of those questions...do this.

Drop a $20 bill on the floor....and say, "Hey, there's a twenty on the floor, is this yours?" Pick up the twenty, hand it to him and give him a quick wink. I've heard it works wonders.

PS Just kidding.
 
Stupid Examiner Questions

Ace757 said:
Say your airplane doesnt fit in your hanger and you decide to cut 6 inches off the wing, what do you have to do?
That question was moronic and shouldn't have been asked. It served no purpose and is ball-busting. Who's going to cut down a wing simply to fit an airplane in a hangar? I probably would have answered that I guess I'm SOL about parking my airplane in that hangar.

Having said that, I, reluctantly, must side with the others. Examiners ask plenty of unfair questions. As a practical matter, your best course of action is just to deal with it. DEs and their FSDO ASIs can be a real ole boys' club which you're better off not trying to fight.

Good luck with your recheck.
 
im just worried about getting a job in the future, because the applications ask how many checrides you have failed, and this industry is to competitive right now to have them
 
PS Joe Jet, put some **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** clothes on you fat bastard.

Problem Solved!

Ace,

The simple fact is, if you try to fight this you will loose. It might go something like this. You call the FSDO to complain, FSDO calls the DE, the DE says he failed you based on the fact that you did not have a clue about STC's. No matter what happens, you will have to do the checkride over. The FSDO is not going to just give you a certificate based on the examiner asking what you feel is an unfair question. If challenged on this the examiner is going to say that you did not have the knowledge of STC's.

Suck it up, pass your recheck and move on. A pink slip is not the end of the world.
 
I don't think you're going to get very far with an appeal.

If you had witnesses who could testify that you answered every question perfectly except the question about the proper temperature for brewing belgian style barley wine, you might have a case.

The question about the STC? He could claim that it was a question about airworthiness ... a bit of a stretch, yes, and I agree that it's a little much for a commercial checkride, but it *was* a question about airworthiness.

Questions about unfeathering accumulators? That's systems, fair game. Out of curiosity, what did he ask?

Did you get hosed? possibly, I wasn't there, but from what you've said, I don't think that you have much to show as grounds for an appeal.

Once you have you certificate in hand, and you're sure that you'll never have another checkride form this individual, you might file a formal complaint. It won't do anything for you, but if the FAA gets enough complaints about an examiner, they *might* do something about it.

Sorry
 
1 failed checkride is not going to cost you a job in the future. Learn from the experience and move on. I failed my Commercial ME on the oral portion. He gave me 1 shot on a performance problem and failed me. I was extremely pissed, but kept my anger to myself. When he showed up the second time, I nailed his question and the flight and I passed.

In the future, when interviewers ask about the checkride, tell them what you learned and that is it. Many people fail atleast one checkride in thier careers. Sh!t happens.
 
Re: Stupid Examiner Questions

bobbysamd said:
Who's going to cut down a wing simply to fit an airplane in a hangar? [/B]

Well, since you ask, Northern Air Cargo Has an STC for trimming a few inches off the wings of their DC-6's for precisely that reason.
 
Don't feel too bad....we just had an examiner (one we'd never used before) fail a CMEL add-on applicant with the question: "What are the 9 ways to tell if you gear is down?"
 

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