Can part 135 pilots still "Jumpseat"?

[CorporateGuy]

I used to "Jumpseat" a few years ago when I worked for a part 135 operator. I'm thinking about accepting a job in another state, and visiting my wife on my days off... How hard is it to catch a free ride on the airlines now with all the new security changes?

 

[TurboS7]

There is a ton of information on this board about jumpseating I would sift through it. Part 135, have fun, all you can do is try. Just remember that as a Part 135 you are a U.S. carrier just like a 121 carrier-same certificate.

 

[skytrucker]

Good friggin luck!

I currently work for a Part 135 operator, and can tell you getting jumpseat approval with a 121 carrier is about nil. Unless the company you work for has a specific WRITTEN agreement with the 121 carrier, the chances that you can get on are slim.

I used to enjoy jumpseat privledges with many carriers, written agreement or not, now since 9/11 , no one will touch 135 guys. I have heard of some exceptions, but I think there is some verbage from the FAA after 9/11 that basically says you have to be 121 to ride 121, and 135 to ride 135.

Granted its been a few months since I tried it, but I just gave up on trying until I hear there's been a change.

If anyone else out there has had better luck with specfic carriers or things have changed, please let me know.

 

[starchkr]

Yes a 135 guy/gal can ride on the 121 carriers. You need to check with your company first as to what agreements they have before setting out to try. I am not sure as to the above post stating that you must be 121 to ride 121 and so forth, because i know we are 135 and have current agreements with something like 30 121 carriers, and there will be more after FEB 4th.(National Jumpseating Convention)

Definately check it out before accepting a job away from family, unless you want to be away, because it might not work for you.

 

[OtterFO]

135 Jumpseats.

I've only run into one 121 carrier who accecpts 135 jumpseaters again. Its Alaska Airlines, and they seem to be limiting the privies to 135 operators in the bush with a written agreement. BTW any Alaska Air pilots: Thanks for the ride to Anchorage, it's been mighty cold here on the north slope....

 

[starchkr]

I found a list of carriers accepting 135 guys, here goes:

Air Tran
Air Wisconsin
America West
Anoka Air
Atlantic Coast
Atlantic Southeast
Atlas
Big Sky
Business Express
Casino Express
CCAIR
Champion Air
Chicago Express
Comair
Corp. Air
Express Airlines
Frontier
G.P. Express
Grand Aire
Great Lakes
Gulfstream
Jet Blue
National
North American
Pan American
Paradise Island
Polar
Shuttle America
Skyway
Skywest
Southwest
Spirit
Tower
Trans States
Vanguard
West Air
World

That is our current list, but i know of a few others who have extended me unofficial boarding rights which are not published. Those i will not list as to protect their pilots from any management that might be observing this board. To those i say thank you, and i extend the same priveledge to you.

 

[chperplt]

Has your list been updated since 9/11?

 

[starchkr]

Yes, this list was given to us on January 15th, 2002.

 

[Iced_up]

You may want to find a current jump seat list. Even being a pilot for a 121 carrier, it has been impossible to ride on certain ones listed on your post. And it changes almost on a daily bases.

Good luck!

 

[starchkr]

The above list was compiled by our jumpseat coordinator before being given to us. He called and talked with all of the airlines on our previous list and the ones above were the ones who said they will allow us on board. The list above is about 20 short of our previous list because the others will not take pilots at this time, but like i originally said, i can still find pilots willing to give a ride even if their management says no. Be nice and let them know that you will be willing to give them a ride anytime, and most of them will have no problem with letting you on. It might also have something to do with the company you work for. I know that with our schedules, most pilots have no problem letting us on because they know we can get them home when no one else can.

 

[sabreliner]

Interesting,

As a 121 Captain, my understanding is that ONLY 121 pilots may jumpseat on my airplane. I'll try to find out more from our JS coordinator...

 

[Boeingman]

It used to be that any 121 pilot could ride. This changed a couple of years ago (not sure the exact reasons) but now they have to be on an apporved list (as with 135 operators).

I just looked at our list and I think there are only 2 135 outfits approved.

Additionally we are restricted from taking only approved 121 pilots to international destinations.

 

[Twotter76]

This jumpseat discrimination is even being felt at the regional level. I fly for a 121 regional that used to take just about anyone, no list required, now we have a very strict list on who we can take. And to add insult to injury we just lost our agreement with UAL and I can't figure out why. On the upside we still can take as many as there are seats available, as long as they are on the list. I hate to turn down United guys but until we get our agreement back, management says no. Really this is getting out of hand and we need to do something. There are some 135 operators that we can still take, however.

 

[starchkr]

Well here's a great idea!!!!!!!!!


We have all of these people here that seem to be willing to let others onboard...
so why don't we all identify each other and colaborate with our JS coordinators as to getting agreements!

Sometimes it takes a push to get things done, if you are not willing to help, then pass this on to someone who will be.

Ok, just trying to help those with limited agreements, and really help those with none. Heck and why not add a few more to my list too

I will tell you now, anyone willing to let myself or anyone from AN onoard is definately allowed on my aircraft anytime. Our schedules are online and are very extensive across the country. One benefit we offer is that we do fly mostly at night. That means that instead of having to wait until the next day to catch your ride home, why not park your plane and immediately catch a ride home on us. We can definately help make your weekends longer( well, whatever you call your weekend at least).

Let me know, and lets try to help out the others that are limited.

Starchkr