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benjakes

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Who is wearing a wrinkled ASA golf polo, Cintas (?), fast food pants which are faded and look like they were spray painted on?

Do they not have to buy thier uniforms from a company store?

This really was a new low... She looked like she came straight from the Popeyes on Concourse C.
 
Was said FA working the flight?
I had a captain refuse a flight attendant that got juniored into the trip because she was crying and screaming.
 
Did you know that if you, as a captain remove an FA from a flight, she gets a "trip failure" which is the FA version of our "no-show"?
 
John Pennekamp said:
Did you know that if you, as a captain remove an FA from a flight, she gets a "trip failure" which is the FA version of our "no-show"?

Good... they deserve it if they come dressed like that to a flight.
 
We had a case where one of the "In Flight" supervisors removed the F/A from the flight (Violations on the uniform code, length of the skirt. I think) and had another assistant supervisor work the flight In civilian cloths. Go figure.
 
Best to get a MOD or CP involved before you start enforcing FA uniform protocol. Your MOD or CP will get the proper inflight management folks involved. Let them make the decision to remove the FA or have him/her continue to a station where they can be replaced or fix their uniform.
 
Dave Benjamin said:
Best to get a MOD or CP involved before you start enforcing FA uniform protocol. Your MOD or CP will get the proper inflight management folks involved. Let them make the decision to remove the FA or have him/her continue to a station where they can be replaced or fix their uniform.

Or you could just mind your own business and give the poor girls making the equivelancy of 50 cents an hour a break...

They'll probably weed themselves out before too long anyhow.
 
John Pennekamp said:
Or you could just mind your own business and give the poor girls making the equivelancy of 50 cents an hour a break...

They'll probably weed themselves out before too long anyhow.

Amen to that Brotha,,,,they get what they pay for.
 
John Pennekamp said:
Or you could just mind your own business and give the poor girls making the equivelancy of 50 cents an hour a break...

They'll probably weed themselves out before too long anyhow.
Yep, I agree. This airline has no standards of customer care. Think you are going to change things - HA!

However, the FAA does have a high standard and you are held to that standard. Do you think that your FA is able to keep the passengers safe? Do they have a cool enough head to react properly should an emergency arise?

We are directly responsible for pax safety, whether it be due to an airplane with no APU that results in a heat stroke, or a Flight Attendant who lets folks ignore the seatbelt sign and fall on the airplane.

My objective measure is safety. After that this airline gave up on the window dressing a long time ago.

When we have State of the Company Meetings where the President tells us that our goal is "just not to be last - being first would cost too much" - lets me know where our operations focus is at.

Delta gets what they pay for. We have 6 DCI carriers in ATL and obviously the competition is based on cost, not service.
 
Legally, the captain can toss anybody from the plane...as the sole authority. However, practically, if you were do that based solely on a grooming standpoint, you may have some explaining to do to your CP. The FAA could really care less about dressing image, though no doubt your company should.
 
benjakes said:
Who is wearing a wrinkled ASA golf polo, Cintas (?), fast food pants which are faded and look like they were spray painted on?

Do they not have to buy thier uniforms from a company store?

This really was a new low... She looked like she came straight from the Popeyes on Concourse C.

75% of regional pilots fly around with wrinkled, stained, smelly, dirty uniforms anyway.....wonder if a Captain has ever denied himself boarding because he looks like a slob.....give the flight attendants a break.
 
benjakes said:
Who is wearing a wrinkled ASA golf polo, Cintas (?), fast food pants which are faded and look like they were spray painted on?

Do they not have to buy thier uniforms from a company store?

This really was a new low... She looked like she came straight from the Popeyes on Concourse C.

I hope the FAs don't screw up and put the visine in the FO's drink instead of yours. I think I'll be asking for my drinks in unopend cans from now on.;)
 
benjakes said:
Who is wearing a wrinkled ASA golf polo, Cintas (?), fast food pants which are faded and look like they were spray painted on?

Do they not have to buy thier uniforms from a company store?

This really was a new low... She looked like she came straight from the Popeyes on Concourse C.


What race was she?
 
Just to be clear I was not advocating trying to get a FA tossed off the trip for appearance. What I was pointing out is that if a captain felt that strongly about it he should get the right people involved. I've never seen a FA so non-compliant that it would give me any cause for concern.
 
If you look in the SPs (or whatever they are called now) it says the capt. is responsible for the crew conforming to uniform policy. If not you can get them taken off until they do follow policy.
 
Dumb Pilot said:
We had a case where one of the "In Flight" supervisors removed the F/A from the flight (Violations on the uniform code, length of the skirt. I think) and had another assistant supervisor work the flight In civilian cloths. Go figure.

LOL thats amazing....how can a FA's skirt be too short, unless of course it's a Delta Cat Rancher....ewwwwwww.
 
MELIT said:
ASA cryin again! Thats no suprise. You people sure put alot of energy into complaining.

But you love to read it and write your sorry comments huh management boy?

VOTED IN FAVOR!
 
Dumb Pilot said:
We had a case where one of the "In Flight" supervisors removed the F/A from the flight (Violations on the uniform code, length of the skirt. I think) and had another assistant supervisor work the flight In civilian cloths. Go figure.

So...if I were to deny a sup. in civ. clothes to work my flight...would SHE then get a trip failure too. I would hope so.

I can't stand the logic and stupidness in the FA ranks when it comes to punishment and enforcement.
 
ASARJMan said:
Superpooper is back! I thought I told you weeks ago to get back in your cubicle and do some work you management wannabe moron!

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