CAL LAX Base Rumor, AGAIN!

[BID]

Well, the rumors are starting again, or maybe they never really died? Hearing they are going to take another, "serious look" at LAX in April or so.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Well, the rumors are starting again, or maybe they never really died? Hearing they are going to take another, "serious look" at LAX in April or so.

Yawn...


Are they gonna take a serious look on April 1st?

 

[CapnVegetto]

Heard from a friend......

Bid in April released......LA base opening and recalls.

Believe it when you see it, but this is from a buddy I played golf with today with friends in the training department.

 

[densoo]

There already is an LA Base. It's called Cleveland.

 

[Billsflyer]

Just the company trying to create leverage for itself. I can see it now, we will open LAX, recall and have massive growth, you just need to sign of on this POS contract.

My guess it is just noise.

Back to my furlough

 

[densoo]

Bid in April released......LA base opening and recalls.

Monthly bid for March already announced . . . . 45% of CLE flying is HNL pairings.

IRO Day One: DH IAH, DH SNA;
Day Two: HNL turn;
Day three: DH EWR, DH CLE.

 

[General Lee]

You guys will have an LAX base after merging with United.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Monthly bid for March already announced . . . . 45% of CLE flying is HNL pairings.

IRO Day One: DH IAH, DH SNA;
Day Two: HNL turn;
Day three: DH EWR, DH CLE.

The CLE rep (Person) told us that was going to happen at the December union meeting. He mentioned that by summer nearly 50% of CLE flying is going to be Hawaii flying. He also said no increase in staffing for the CLE base. So you can use your jump to conclusions mat to determine that a great deal of the "usual" flying out of the CLE domicile is going to be done by other bases.

What has two thumbs and can't hold CLE?

 

[motch]

There already is an LA Base. It's called Cleveland.

Post of the day~

 

[densoo]

The CLE rep (Person) told us that was going to happen at the December union meeting. He mentioned that by summer nearly 50% of CLE flying is going to be Hawaii flying. He also said no increase in staffing for the CLE base. So you can use your jump to conclusions mat to determine that a great deal of the "usual" flying out of the CLE domicile is going to be done by other bases.

It will be an interesting summer. If you subtract the HNL flying what's going to be left in the bid package? Maybe a handful of high quality trips and the rest could be the usual unproductive 3 and 4 day trips. The senior people who are generally insulated from the unregulated hand of CAL's scheduling marketplace are going to be scrambling over scraps if they want to avoid sitting in a center 737 seat for 4 legs and 10 hours of a 20-hour pairing.

And just wait for the IRO HNL turn. TOC on the way out, FO goes back for the meal and movie and a long nap, comes back at TOD. On the way back, CA goes back for the meal and the movie and long nap, comes back at TOD. Ten hours of radios and paperwork for the IRO, five in each seat, is one long day. I've already seen this on IRO turns to other places on the 737. Fun.

If people don't adjust their bids significantly there will be a lot of DM4. Who knows, maybe it will finally reach the unreachable to read the next contract before they vote it in.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

It will be an interesting summer. If you subtract the HNL flying what's going to be left in the bid package? Maybe a handful of high quality trips and the rest could be the usual unproductive 3 and 4 day trips. The senior people who are generally insulated from the unregulated hand of CAL's scheduling marketplace are going to be scrambling over scraps if they want to avoid sitting in a center 737 seat for 4 legs and 10 hours of a 20-hour pairing.

And just wait for the IRO HNL turn. TOC on the way out, FO goes back for the meal and movie and a long nap, comes back at TOD. On the way back, CA goes back for the meal and the movie and long nap, comes back at TOD. Ten hours of radios and paperwork for the IRO, five in each seat, is one long day. I've already seen this on IRO turns to other places on the 737. Fun.

If people don't adjust their bids significantly there will be a lot of DM4. Who knows, maybe it will finally reach the unreachable to read the next contract before they vote it in.

Very interesting...The law of unintended consequences in all its glory.

We'll see.

 

[bizicmo]

Monthly bid for March already announced . . . . 45% of CLE flying is HNL pairings.

IRO Day One: DH IAH, DH SNA;
Day Two: HNL turn;
Day three: DH EWR, DH CLE.

First off please forgive me for any stupidity. Its been awhile for me with the work rules and block times for those routes and so I was just wondering. If that is an actual trip, I am just guessing that is about 25 hours in a plane. What is keeping the computer from spitting out a schedule with two of those back to back, thus keeping someone in an airplane for 50 hours over a 6 day period. That just seems absurd so I must be missing something.

 

[densoo]

First off please forgive me for any stupidity. Its been awhile for me with the work rules and block times for those routes and so I was just wondering. If that is an actual trip, I am just guessing that is about 25 hours in a plane. What is keeping the computer from spitting out a schedule with two of those back to back, thus keeping someone in an airplane for 50 hours over a 6 day period. That just seems absurd so I must be missing something.

You may be right. Don't fly a lot of international or DH. Why not though? It's only 24 hours of time that the FAA counts, the rest is DH. What's doable is that you can get in at 2230 from the HNL turn on the 2nd day and catch the 2330 redeye back to CLE. 23 hours of flying credit in a 48 hours.

There's also a 35 hour 5-day.

 

[densoo]

Very interesting...The law of unintended consequences in all its glory.

VRF for March is out and for the first time in a very long time many FO BESs are not being offered VRF, including CLE. Summer's starting early.

 

[densoo]

First off please forgive me for any stupidity. Its been awhile for me with the work rules and block times for those routes and so I was just wondering. If that is an actual trip, I am just guessing that is about 25 hours in a plane. What is keeping the computer from spitting out a schedule with two of those back to back, thus keeping someone in an airplane for 50 hours over a 6 day period. That just seems absurd so I must be missing something.

For now, these trips are only offered once per week.