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CAL and Mokulele

MCOE175

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Maybe this will be part of the driving nail into Mesa... Who knows?

http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2009/04/20/daily43.html?ana=from_rss

Kona-based Mokulele Airlines has signed an interline electronic ticketing agreement with Continental Airlines.
The agreement allows passengers to book and ticket destinations in Hawaii beyond Continental’s Honolulu gateway to neighbor islands.
“This agreement makes ‘one stop shopping’ possible for those traveling from the mainland to points throughout the islands,” said Scott Durgin, interim CEO of Mokulele Airlines, in a statement. “When booking with Continental, passengers can view Mokulele’s interisland flight schedules and purchase tickets to their final destination in Hawaii in one simple transaction.”
Continental, based in Houston, is the eighth-largest airline servicing Honolulu International Airport.
 

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Maybe this will be part of the driving nail into Mesa... Who knows?

http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2009/04/20/daily43.html?ana=from_rss

Kona-based Mokulele Airlines has signed an interline electronic ticketing agreement with Continental Airlines.
The agreement allows passengers to book and ticket destinations in Hawaii beyond Continental’s Honolulu gateway to neighbor islands.
“This agreement makes ‘one stop shopping’ possible for those traveling from the mainland to points throughout the islands,” said Scott Durgin, interim CEO of Mokulele Airlines, in a statement. “When booking with Continental, passengers can view Mokulele’s interisland flight schedules and purchase tickets to their final destination in Hawaii in one simple transaction.”
Continental, based in Houston, is the eighth-largest airline servicing Honolulu International Airport.

Interesting way for CAL to get around that pesky little 50 seat scope issue. I hope they have air tight language regarding code share in the lower 48!
 

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Mesa (Go!) Sucks!!!
 

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Interesting way for CAL to get around that pesky little 50 seat scope issue. I hope they have air tight language regarding code share in the lower 48!

This is no different than codesharing with United/Delta/Northwest/etc. They all have larger than 50 seat RJs.

I have never heard of a scope clause only concerning the 48 contiguous states.. "The Harvard of the Skies", eh?
 

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Continental people hate JO. The scumbag used to work there and was kicked out. I wouldn't be surprise if they did that just to force GO! out of business.
Karma is a biiiaaatch!
 

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This is no different than codesharing with United/Delta/Northwest/etc. They all have larger than 50 seat RJs.

I have never heard of a scope clause only concerning the 48 contiguous states.. "The Harvard of the Skies", eh?

Exactly my point. What stops CAL from "code sharing" with Republic in the lower 48. Removing CAL planes and replacing them with Republic Airlines e170/190. Oh yea Republic just got approval from the FAA to run Independent flagship operations too.

Scope very much does concern code sharing as well. Several Airlines have clauses specific to Hawaii. Southwest with ATA was just one example.
 
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Because RP is not going to go out on its own just to code share... Who would that benifit?
 

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Exactly my point. What stops CAL from "code sharing" with Republic in the lower 48. Removing CAL planes and replacing them with Republic Airlines e170/190. .

They can't because CALALPA's scope does not allow jets with more than 50 seats. We already code share with Republicshuttletaqua so I guess I'm still confused as to what you are trying to say.
 

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I think I know what he is saying but I believe he is wrong. There is a difference in the code share with Republic and code share with say delta. On the Delta flight, delta is covering the cost of operating the flight. On a Republic flight, Continental is covering the cost of the flight. I would continue but my kid is calling.
 

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CAL codeshares with Hawaiian not Mokulele. Their agreement with MW is an interline agreement which is very different. An interline agreement allows flight information to populate when a search is made and the ticket can be purchased but the flight is listed as a separate carrier. A codeshare agreement is very different.
 

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Poahi, congratulations for actually having a basic understanding of these types of agreements, everyone else needs to go back and do some homework. Unlike a codeshare agreement (pro-rate or revenue-guarantee) an interline ticketing agreement does not involve any sharing of revenue. it is essentially an agreement to sell eachothers tickets.
 

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Poahi, congratulations for actually having a basic understanding of these types of agreements, everyone else needs to go back and do some homework. Unlike a codeshare agreement (pro-rate or revenue-guarantee) an interline ticketing agreement does not involve any sharing of revenue. it is essentially an agreement to sell eachothers tickets.

This is correct. However, at some large airlines, it still has to pass the "sniff" test of their scope and get the approval of the mainline pilot group.

Some of the things that were condidered in the past were: is it competition, size of airplanes flown, size of operation, routes, markets, and is it more beneficial to permit the agreement than to do the flying ourselves? In many cases it is allowed, because it is a way to get access without risk, especially in markets, that due to economics, would not be served. Many times it is in the best interest of the mainline pilot group to permit the agreement.
 
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In many cases it is allowed, because it is a way to get access without risk,

There are only two reasons this agreement was made IMHO. It worked for CAL because MW is going to pay them a fee for the very few tickets they actually sell (most of which will be to MKK and LNY) and secondly, it was an opportunity for a press release to get people to think that MW has a marketing network when it does not.

It is not a threat to CAL scope IMHO. Did anyone miss the fanfare at CAL when they acknowledged this agreement?
 

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Looks like 2 E190's (MIGHT) be going to Mokulele this year...
FAA issued 2 N numbers on 2 190's with the HQ aka RP on 4/10/2009.
 

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These airplanes are not registed to Republic. You are basing you info on the fact that Republic also has tail numbers of HQ. These airplanes have not been sold yet inside the US.
 
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