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...sorry to burst your bubble...but with oil at 135, a slowing economy, an incoming Democratic President, record airline losses, and a fractured sorry excuse for a union.....all the feelgood cheerleading in the world isn't going to deliver what the Herndon snake oil salesmen are selling......Drink the koolaid if it makes you feel good....but watch out for the hangover.....
 
What a great time for an ALPA rally!

When are you guys gonna recall Prater? I'd go to that rally! But this one if like pissing in the wind. What will you be asking for?
 
....boy the support for ALPA is overwhelming.....I wonder if ALPA even realizes it....Let's pass some more dues increases and have some more rallies.....

Alex I'll take "Clueless" for $1000.....
 
...sorry to burst your bubble...but with oil at 135, a slowing economy, an incoming Democratic President, record airline losses, and a fractured sorry excuse for a union.....all the feelgood cheerleading in the world isn't going to deliver what the Herndon snake oil salesmen are selling......Drink the koolaid if it makes you feel good....but watch out for the hangover.....

Some would argue that a new Democratic president might be the best hope for pilot labor. But just because there are some hard lines being drawn in the sand, should not mean that we should have a defeatist attitude. You have to keep pushing forward no matter what. Life is not perfect.

The difference between the successful and the unsuccessful, is that the successful were willing to try, fail, and get up and do it all over again.
 
Some would argue that a new Democratic president might be the best hope for pilot labor. But just because there are some hard lines being drawn in the sand, should not mean that we should have a defeatist attitude. You have to keep pushing forward no matter what. Life is not perfect.

The difference between the successful and the unsuccessful, is that the successful were willing to try, fail, and get up and do it all over again.

First you have to ask what is best for the economy and for the industry....Pilot labor will get nowhere with a poor economy and an industry that is losing money.....It doesn't do any good to strike a company that is losing money.....

Next you have to ask if your union is doing all it can to unify the membership.....It doesn't appear so.....

Attend the rally if it makes you feel better.....
 
You're right- doing nothing is the way to go. That will fix the FO b-scale and medical insurance waiting period. It will probably fix the PBS problems too now that I think about it.

No matter what road the pilot group chooses, sending a message to management that we stand together will help us gain leverage down the line.

Think about it, which group would you give a pay raise to if you were management? The group who can't get it together, never agrees and won't lift a finger to help themselves, or the group that demands pay raises, mobilizes and works together?
 
First you have to ask what is best for the economy and for the industry....Pilot labor will get nowhere with a poor economy and an industry that is losing money.....It doesn't do any good to strike a company that is losing money.....

Next you have to ask if your union is doing all it can to unify the membership.....It doesn't appear so.....

Attend the rally if it makes you feel better.....

Dude, who in the f**k are you? Do you fly for CAL? You've bashed the CAL rally for 3 posts in a row. You don't want to attend or watch...great, get the hell away. EVEN in times of a tough economy and EVEN in times of possible furloughs, our pilot group at CAL can still rally to show unity to each other - and that's the main reason I'll be there.

Enjoy your ATR. Clowns like you are half the reason why our pay at the majors has gone down the way it has. What an idiot.
 
...sorry to burst your bubble...but with oil at 135, a slowing economy, an incoming Democratic President, record airline losses, and a fractured sorry excuse for a union.....all the feelgood cheerleading in the world isn't going to deliver what the Herndon snake oil salesmen are selling......Drink the koolaid if it makes you feel good....but watch out for the hangover.....

And what kind of message do you think a poor showing will send to management?
 
First you have to ask what is best for the economy and for the industry....Pilot labor will get nowhere with a poor economy and an industry that is losing money.....It doesn't do any good to strike a company that is losing money.....

Next you have to ask if your union is doing all it can to unify the membership.....It doesn't appear so.....

Attend the rally if it makes you feel better.....

The smack always feels more potent coming from a career REGIONAL d-bag...
 
...sorry to burst your bubble...but with oil at 135, a slowing economy, an incoming Democratic President, record airline losses, and a fractured sorry excuse for a union.....all the feelgood cheerleading in the world isn't going to deliver what the Herndon snake oil salesmen are selling......Drink the koolaid if it makes you feel good....but watch out for the hangover.....

We need more of this doom and gloom rollover and die mentality from a pilot group. We have given alot over the years, pay, work rules , and ultimately our respect and credibility, and you want to give more. Seems you don't even want to support any kind of improvement at all. This industry has its ups, downs, and furloughs. It is the nature of this business, but does that mean we should throw ourselves under a bus. We have got to draw a line somewhere, we might not get everything we what, but having a "what's the point attitude" will get us nothing.
 

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