C-5 crash video

[talondriver]

I'm sure they all had to be familiar with it. I'm assuming they had to be qualified to fly an aircraft with a new cockpit. In the 135, we have new avionics also (Block 40/40.2). We go through Block 40 qualification through our training department in our mission qual phase, which consists of about 10 hours of CBT's, 3 sims and 3 flights. Everyone goes through it. If you're not qualified, you don't fly Block 40 aircraft. Now, being qualified and being proficient are two different things. We're only required to log one sortie per semester (6 months) in the Block 40 aircraft. I don't know if the C-5 guys go through the same type of in house qualification training as we do for the new avionics (I would assume they do), but depending on how frequently or infrequently pilots are flying the "new" aircraft, I could see someone having a brain fart.

Let me re-phrase...one was more familiar with the glass than the others. Supposedly, this jet was coming from Robins and the pilot with more time using the new stuff was from there but I'm not sure it was the delivery sortie. I'm also not familiar with how intense the upgrade is.

 

[Gorilla]

I never advocated the release of any material that is priveledged or classified... I simply said I don't agree with this particular classification, in this case.

I feel like I need to rephrase this: If a document, electronic or paper, is classified or priveleged in any way by the "powers", then I will personally join in with a baseball bat on anyone who leaks it, regardless of my personal feelings on the particular document.

If they classify a list of the cases of potato chips consumed by Navy pilots while on cruise, and it gets leaked, I'll condemn the leaker, but wonder why the heck the list was classified in the first place.

I think much of this entire C5 episode can be attributed to what I call "check airman syndrome." CAS is nothing more than an overload of instructors/supervisors packed into a small space. I've flown with many Check Airmen; most are superb, but every so often you'll see one do something so bizarre and stupid, it boggles your mind.

 

[satpak77]

just back from a trip...

God Bless the military for protecting our nation and our freedom. I have friends that are current or ex-mil pilots and all good dudes.

With that said, we are all human (last time I checked) and this was a classic human factors pile-up error chain.

For us to not learn from it, well, stupid on us.

I hope the pilots get a speedy recovery and hopefully the Air Force sees this for what it is and does the right thing and does not hammer these guys.

later

 

[Steve]

the link is now dead. here is a new one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vzDV88FsRU

 

[71KILO]

Number two shut down in flight due to reverser unlock light

After bringing the throttles back in desenct, PF somehow swapped #2 and 3

He put the dead engine throttle up and left the good engine at idle.

Perfectly good airplane before the pilot error

Sure glad they all lived!

That's all I'm willing to say now that the video is out there.