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Never out run a citation, however, the Riley SuperSkyrockets give performance similar to C90's, at significantly lower cost per hour. Smaller, but fast.

climbs like a rocket, too.

http://www.superskyrocket.com
 
Several things to look at, consider.

1. corrosion. These are all old airframes, and like any airplane of these vintages, corrosion must be addressed.
2. Flap Cables. There have been some incidents of flap cables breaking, and in all instances when going from partial to full flaps, resulting in split flaps. Replacing the flap cables regularly is the best insurance.
4. There is an AD for spar inspection. There was one break up, and it is a recurring AD.
5. Landing gear. The gear is hydraulic, with bunches of actuators, all sequenced by micro-switches. Make sure the switches are in good shape, properly adjusted. Otherwise, you may end up with gear that won't go down, or doors that won't retract. The main gear doors are huge clamshells.

Other than that, enjoy and go fly. www.337skymaster.com is full of information.
 
No, in my un-turbo model, SE ceiling, front is like 5K. SE ceiling rear, is 9K. SE front climb is 200, SE rear climb is 350. The turbo, and pressurized versions can hold 14K on either engine.
More data on the big engine versions can be found at www.superskyrocket.com
also some history.


however, during gear retract, because of the barn doors at the back, there is no SE climb, and in fact is -250 during the portion of the retact cycle when doors are open. One of the cautions is that if SE, maintain altitude, extend the gear, and then descend. On take off, opposite of every other plane, you do not "clean it up" if you have an engine failure. Keep the gear out, gain lots of altitude, then if you want to put them away, do so. However, if you lose an engine at take off, best bet is to leave them out.


Gear extension speed is 140 max, but once down, you can go right up to 190. That's because all the doors close up, and there is nothing hanging out except the wheels and their legs.
 
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You mentioned only one break-up which is an impressive record.(unless you happened to be the one) Any details on the cause? Would this record include the military version? Did you read recently of one going in after take-off? Any information on this accident? I believe I read there was speculation that it might have been a failed seat track.Are there any other mechanical issues that have caused accidents.Thanks for any information.
 
Oh, I know they won't catch a citation..I was making a joke about a post from what seems like ages ago.


I thought at least FalconCapt would remember.

At least Vampires prefer 337's to other aircraft.
 
Denizen said:
Oh, I know they won't catch a citation..I was making a joke about a post from what seems like ages ago.


I thought at least FalconCapt would remember.

I caught the reference .... what did happen to that citation beater 337 anyway?
 
A Squared said:
I caught the reference .... what did happen to that citation beater 337 anyway?


Shoot I don't know...Thanks for remembering though...I thought my memory was washed away in a sea of single malt.

Glad to know that I may be drunk...but I am not crazy

*raises glass to Asquared*
 
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Any recomendations on the best shop or mechanic for a prebuy inspection? Central U.S. would be prefered. Thanks.
Actually a couple exist.
Don Neiser, runs Commodore Aerospace, at PWA. He is kind of an expert on them, and has tons of parts.
Farther north, my mech, at RMY takes care of 2 of them.
Ask the question at www.337skymaster.com if you want more information.
 
Denizen said:
Oh, I know they won't catch a citation..I was making a joke about a post from what seems like ages ago.

Actually, once, I was descending for TEB, from 7K to 2K, <10nm from the airport, and had to do a 90 right, then 180 left turn, because I was overtaking a Slowtation. It was exceptional, I had simply pushed the nose over, and was indicating above 190. Maybe a lot. Anyway, the slowtation was lined up on a 10 mile final, and they were losing spacing between me and him. It was just as well that they turned me away, because I had to slow up a LOT to get the flaps and gear down.
 
I dont remember Commodore Aerospace at KPWA. I currently Fly out of wiley post airport. I have seen a few C-337s at KPWA. Commander aircrafts was at KPWA.
 
Here's their website.

http://02337parts.com/

You can call them. 405.503.4686
I was at their facility, 18 months ago, which is really a bunch of hangars, in one of the sections of T-hangars there. If you want an 0-2 with rocket launchers, or mini-guns (helpful when a slow citation is in front of you!!) they can set you up.

Incidentally, Don Neiser, the principal, got a silver wrench award at OSH for one of their restorations.
 
sky37d said:
Here's their website.

http://02337parts.com/

You can call them. 405.503.4686
I was at their facility, 18 months ago, which is really a bunch of hangars, in one of the sections of T-hangars there. If you want an 0-2 with rocket launchers, or mini-guns (helpful when a slow citation is in front of you!!) they can set you up.

Incidentally, Don Neiser, the principal, got a silver wrench award at OSH for one of their restorations.

I will check it out. thanks
 
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I had a 1967 turbocharged C-337 Skymaster for a few years and loved it. For a twin I did get about 150 kts. and 24 gal/hr. Prior posts are correct about being a twin, turbocharge, complex gear, double vaccum, and hyd system do make for a little more expensive annual. The speed and gas is nothing special at all, but, for around a $50,000 price tag it can be a huge advantage over something faster like Baron or Seneca. I also like the feel being heavy and the level or slight pitch up attitude like a heavy jet. Therefore landing almost like one as well. I also really like the centerline thrust, and the multi time also helped me get an airline job. I found it to be very safe from an engineering/design standpoint. Both engines ran good and stayed cool. I have also shut each engine down on the Skymaster, just myself, full fuel, and a couple bags. Each engine climbed about 500 feet/min, clean config. This was on extended range/turbocharge. The long range tanks were also really nice. Seems like it had around 8 hr total endurance. Good luck.
 
I live, and operate from a ~2700 ft grass strip. I lead in with the rear, get some speed up, hit it with the front. Never any damage on the rear.

Big trees at both ends. I like the twin, I like the CLT, I like that if I lose an engine, at blue line, I can still climb. Right off the ground, I'm at blue line, then climbing. After clearing the trees, gear up.

I have thought about other planes, but I wouldn't feel as comfortable and safe as I do in the 337
 

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