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Amen! Sounds like you need to get some new SOP's and a new captain.ATRCAPT said:How does the old saying go? The sharpest captains are usually the easiest to get along with. In my experience it sure rings true!
gern_blanston said:Amen! Sounds like you need to get some new SOP's and a new captain.
The after-takeoff checklist makes a great PNF-do checklist.
And 'sterile cockpit' definitely doesn't mean 'silent cockpit'.
Good luck.
Sorry, Hugh, but I was busy sleeping in Winterpeg. Fortunately, I can depend on you to take care of such issues, right?Hugh Jorgan said:(BTW...two T's in butthole, since Tonyc doesn't seem to be paying attention today).
dhc8fo said:What's wrong with an after takeoff checklist after takeoff? Is it normal procedure to do it as challenge/response where you are flying? High density or not, that is when you do the after takeoff checklist...after takeoff. I can only speak for my airline, but challenge/response on most of the checklists is standard. There are some silent checklists too, but if you can't fly, look out for traffic, and do a checklist then you need more practice. Just my opinion.
The sterile cockpit thing is understandable.
I never pick up the checklist after departure
My company's is too. What's the problem with that? It's not that difficult (or that unusual for that matter) if it's your SOP to do it that way.Singlecoil said:Your after take-off checklist is command and response?
So what are you saying here? Are you trying to say that adherence to SOP is a sign of a weak pilot? And this business about rhythm - SOP dictates what the "rhythm" should be. If anyone in the cockpit of an aircraft requiring more than one pilot is thrown by that, they're not qualified, on the most basic level, to even be there.Singlecoil said:For some reason, the weakest aviators, and the ones who rigidly adhere to SOP seem to be the ones that are the most annoying to fly with and get into the most trouble. I think it is because they throw the other person's rhythm off so bad or alienate them so much, that they are basically flying single pilot.
Exactly! Because ya know what? Sometimes the FOs do things that AREN'T right and sometimes it's the captains. It's the JOB of the other guy to point it out when it happens! It's interesting though, isn't it, how it's always an a$$hole captain who's the problem and not an FO who needs a little more time in seat.Singlecoil said:If Captain Jackhole feels he needs to nitpick you or tell you how to fly to keep himself in the loop, then so be it.
westwind driver said:After takeoff most items are 'memory' and can generally be done by flow, therefore effectively making the after-takeoff checklist just that, a checklist and not a do-list.
I never pick up the checklist after departure