Business Week Article

[andyd]

I agree legal isn't always safe. I refused to fly an a/c with the same mel's and I was not fired. It's not that you are refusing to do it, it is HOW you go about the conversation. If you have a history of troublemaking, checkered work history and p!ss poor working relationship with dispatch, maintenance & management...then you reap what you sow.

Foundation of flying skills are formed around the flagpole getting your ratings...GIA does not provide that training. These individuals got thier foundation someplace else...GIA is strictly 121 ops and abides by all 121 training requirements.

 

[Kalifornia]

Knowing nothing of the BE-1900 MEL, were those items defferable? If they were then it was a legal flight. I know in the DA-20, we can defer the pressurization system if we stay below 10K and there is no routing requiring flight above 10K. Saw a guy get fired at Zantop for refusing a legal airplane, and that was a union airline, he never got his job back.

You and Andyd are both unethical and dangerous tool pilots (supervisors). That's not just in terms of threat to the overall career in terms of being a professionally compensated one, but to flying safety in general as in your attitude is unsafe and deadly.

You know what else is still legal in many states: texting while driving. So seriously, in the serious post high school graduate thought process, get a clue that there is no substitution for making decisions that might not be on track with what's currently legally allowed by the slime bag operations like Gulfstream. To put all airlines, "regionals" in the same class is libel, but yea as I brought up before, the legacies need to start up owning up to contracting with sleaze and this article does wonders for exposing that. You and Andyd very lucky not to have been personally responsible for aviation deaths (if you don't already have some cobweb in your closet)...yet, you old fool. Maybe in the new year you'll act more responsible.

 

[waveflyer]

1- GIA has associations with a flight school of the same name.
2- GIA sells right seat time. ie the JOB itself is something that can be bought.
3- GIA is a carrier where many pilots get their initial experience. That experience foundation will follow you.

It all lends to credibility, professionalism, and discipline. The record is the record.
When GIA's chief says this analogy is like having a car accident and looking back to see who taught you to drive- what is your response?

ANY professional pilot knows that flying and driving are very different things. The passengers on that Buffalo flight needed someone who didn't skirt through basic aerodynamics and stall management- they needed pilots with a strong foundation and background- and did not get it.

I am all civilian trained. Never skimped. But my reputation gets tainted bc GIA operates in the same world I came up in. 5 accidents. 5? And you think there's no problem?

 

[Brody1]

I agree legal isn't always safe. I refused to fly an a/c with the same mel's and I was not fired. It's not that you are refusing to do it, it is HOW you go about the conversation. If you have a history of troublemaking, checkered work history and p!ss poor working relationship with dispatch, maintenance & management...then you reap what you sow.

Foundation of flying skills are formed around the flagpole getting your ratings...GIA does not provide that training. These individuals got thier foundation someplace else...GIA is strictly 121 ops and abides by all 121 training requirements.

And how would you know this about Edwards?

 

[pilotyip]

Nice touch

Yes, they were both defferable and yes the a/c was legal to fly. This has been re-hashed many times on here before. GIA isn't doing anything different than any other regional out there....they treat their employees just as good as any other regional or bad depending on your viewpoint. They fly to the FAA FAR's, nearly to the max all the time...but that's what they promise and that's what they deliver. Guy's go there KNOWING this and EXPECTING this and there will always be a small % of whiners who cannot handle it once there. You can go to GIA and routinely get 100+ hours of block a month that credits 150+, making more than your CRJ counterparts and getting your PIC time straight away rather than withering away on reserve flying 40 hours a month dreaming about that next big job. GIA folks work hard, fly hard, put in thier time and move on...that is what GIA promises and what they deliver. Nothing more nothing less. If the FAA doesn't want GIA to operate this way then they need to change the FAR's. If the codeshare partners don't want GIA to operate this way then they should cancel the contracts. This has not happened and won't happen because GIA delivers what it promises.

The implied cause/effect relationship of GIA in regards to the other regional accidents is a stretch in the most generous terms. ALL of the pilots in the mentioned accidents went on to OTHER regionals and went through OTHER training programs, passing training, simms, checkrides and fed rides. Are the authors of this article implying that GIA instructors and check airman are respondsible for the training and checking at other carriers? It is utter nonsense.

If you don't like getting burned then don't play with fire. If you don't want to work HARD in a challenging environment then stay away from GIA...very very simple.

Nice touch of reality, instead of the I am waving a bigger safety flag than you there I am superior to you. There is risk is every aviation operation and everything should be done short of not flying to reduce risk, to not accept any risk is not to fly. BTW I see Kal is off his meds again, he must be a peach to fly with if what we see here reflects on his intersonal skills, BTW2 How deaths have you caused?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Nice touch of reality, instead of the I am waving a bigger safety flag than you there I am superior to you. There is risk is every aviation operation and everything should be done short of not flying to reduce risk, to not accept any risk is not to fly. BTW I see Kal is off his meds again, he must be a peach to fly with if what we see here reflects on his intersonal skills, BTW2 How deaths have you caused?

Hey gramps:
Lighten up on the viagra! Your anti union tirades fit right in with the 1983 hires at CAL! Were you one of them?
Perhaps you should concentrate on the shuffle board and viagra, because what you write here is about as useful as you are, in aviation!
BTW, happy new year!

 

[pilotyip]

Viagra, why would I need that?

Hey gramps:
Lighten up on the viagra! Your anti union tirades fit right in with the 1983 hires at CAL! Were you one of them?
Perhaps you should concentrate on the shuffle board and viagra, because what you write here is about as useful as you are, in aviation!
BTW, happy new year!

Hey! Same to you kid, Happy New Year. It is my 43rd Wedding Anniversary. You know I didn't cross the line at CAL, all my ALPA told me it would ruin, my career and I would end up at some non-sked at KYIP. A funny thing happened on the way to a career. BTW I don't think of myself as anti-union, more of a union realist. Got a lot of ex union pilots in GS at JUS right now. More coming in next week.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Hey! Same to you kid, Happy New Year. It is my 43rd Wedding Anniversary.

Does your husband know?:laugh:

You know I didn't cross the line at CAL, all my ALPA told me it would ruin, my career and I would end up at some non-sked at KYIP.

......Blaming society for your shortcomings no less..................

A funny thing happened on the way to a career.

Yeah, we know, you couldn't cut it as a pilot, so you became management!
Hey, at least you get paid for screwing over people, right? And, unlike prostitution, you can't catch anything................Right?

BTW I don't think of myself as anti-union, more of a union realist. Got a lot of ex union pilots in GS at JUS right now. More coming in next week.

Keep the FAA on speed dial, we're all counting on you!

 

[mt2]

Forget what's deferrable in the MEL or what wx mins are, etc.

Legal ?
Safe ?
Smart ?

You should be able to answer yes to all three before launching on any flight.

 

[pilotyip]

opps!

Does your husband know?:laugh:

Opps, I'm sorry, I thought I saw a hint of civility with your Happy New Year wish. Under the influence on New Years Eve, it is understandable. BTW. I love you too,. hugs and kisses, go send your union some more money.