Burning off fuel

[OPECJet]

Doesn't sound like they were trying to burn off fuel to me...

I have no idea why you would do 5 high speed taxi's either. MX checks or something? Doesn't make any sense.

What is a brake burn o2bflyn? Never heard of it.

You'll find out soon enough flying the X...

 

[gutshotdraw]

Can't speak to why they were doing what they were doing but thermally blowing tires from high speed taxi runs has happened before.

In my past life at a Fortune 500 flight department, the company idiot that everybody hated flying with went out in the Hawker 700 at maintenance department request for some high speed taxi runs. If I recall correctly, they were trouble-shooting an anti-skid anomaly.

After the FOURTH run within about 20 minutes down a 10-thousand foot runway at our large, four-runway, warm climate, very busy home airport, three of the four fuse plugs blew out, disabling the runway for the better part of an hour. Guess he forgot that whole chapter in the Flight Manual about brake energy limits and cooling times.

It sucks, but it can happen.

 

[RNObased]

I realize that cl604drv is a vasty superior pilot to everyone who has ever stepped into a cockpit since the Wright brothers. We all know that 604god has never, ever made a mistake. If he ever does, god I hope I'm standing there.

However to come onto a public website and bash someone when you know nothing about what happened is BS and a douch bag move. You may have been there and think you know what happened, but doubt you know the real story.

Some day I hope to be as good a pilot and as wise, as the all mighty cl604drv. One can only hope that I make it to that level of airmanship and greatness, wish me luck guys.

 

[brokeflyer]

throw cl604drv in the right seat with me....ill straighten his butt our. He'll be offering to feed me grapes while i watch football.

 

[SharkBait]

Wow! I guess I'm glad I don't work there.

 

[snoopy14]

[I learned in limitations maybe day one or two in school bout brake energy..maybe beechjet doesnt have that problem/QUOTE]

You guys who come here and spout off about what everbody else is doing wrong. Then make elementary comments like this to show everyone how smart you is getting old. One day you may make a mistake, i'm sure you wouldn't want a FI dork posting what he thinks happened. Bottom line is you could have asked the very same question without giving away details. But posting tails numbers and locations really shows your class.

 

[blueskies8]

You'll find out soon enough flying the X...

Correct me if I'm wrong but aircraft with carbon-fiber brakes do not require brake burns therefore the X doesn't require them but a Beechjet or any jet with steel brakes would.

 

[blueridge71]

I've never heard of anyone trying to burn off fuel by doing high speed taxis. The best way is to set the brake, bring the power up, including the APU if available, and leave it there.

If airborne, go to 10,000 and set the power as high as possible.

I don't think that brake burns normally take five runs either.

 

[glasspilot]

A thread on FI about an incident is not that big a blow to confidentiality. Not many read this except pilots. I would think the actual plane on the actual runway shutting down the actual airport where there are actual people with cameras would be worse.

At least here the guys who fly the things can get a lesson learned from it all.

So...what is this brake burn off thing and hows it relate to carbon and steel brakes?

 

[blueskies8]

So...what is this brake burn off thing and hows it relate to carbon and steel brakes?

I am no mechanic but have done several brake burns for mx in 500 series Citations, King Air's and light singles. Newly installed steel brakes require a burn in to remove a coating and fit the pad and disk, so I hear. Mx has a checklist for the flightcrew and it dictates how many high speed taxi/brake applications are required. New carbon-fiber brakes do not require this procedure but I do not know the specifics of why.

 

[brokeflyer]

it only relates to someone coming on here and trying start another flame thread. Obviously someone who got the rejection letter from netjets. sad, really sad.

 

[Willy21]

Correct me if I'm wrong but aircraft with carbon-fiber brakes do not require brake burns therefore the X doesn't require them but a Beechjet or any jet with steel brakes would.

I think he was talking about the high speed taxi the X is well known for.

 

[Dr Pokenhiemer]

Burn in's on the Citation 500's and II's require 3 accelerations and stops from a specific speed based on the part number of the pads. I usually do all three accel and stops on one pass down the runway. Takes about 3 minutes to do it all.

 

[BEfly]

Sounds like a Astra crew in AZ that I knew. Doing V1 cuts repeatedly until the tires blew.

 

[cherry20's]

it only relates to someone coming on here and trying start another flame thread. Obviously someone who got the rejection letter from netjets. sad, really sad.

WOW, you like calling out guys who you think didn't get the job at Netjets...

CLASSY!!!