Brasilia type or not?

[Wanderlust]

I'm transitioning from the 1900 to the Brasilia as an FO. I asked the company what it would take to go ahead and get the type, and they told me I can pay the difference in cost. It looks like it'll be about $1,000. What do you guys think, is it worth it? I'll probably go back to the Beech when I upgrade, so I may not get the opportunity again.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

No. Put $1000 into your retirement fund instead or pay down some debt. Brasilias will go away and only cargo dogs will fly them.

 

[Quimby]

Do you feel as though you can pass a type ride in an a/c you have no time in with 1000 hrs (if your profile is up to date)? It's always better to have more ratings than not. 1000 bucks (if it's burning a hole in your pocket) isn't much in the long run. Go for it, if you're confident about the whole process. It would suck though to spend the cash, then bust the ride when it wasn't really necessary. Just something to think about.

 

[Trogdor]

Paying for a type rating is the stupidest thing you can do. This is how companies screw their pilots. If you decide to do this, the company may decide this is the way they want all their pilots to get their types. Save your money and enjoy the Mighty Beech.

 

[Wanderlust]

I'll be flying the brasilia whether I'm typed in it or not. I'm just paying the difference between the type ride and the FO qualification. If I were upgrading, the company would pay for the type, but chances are it'll be in the Beech when the time comes. I figured I'd take this rating while I have the chance.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

A fool and his money are soon separated.

 

[John Pennekamp]

The Brasilia is one of the hardest types out there. The level of knowledge for an EMB-120 type is way above that expected for an FO.

I would say save your money. Your chance of failing the type ride is pretty high and you won't get much for having it in your pocket if you pass.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

The type rating without PIC time means little to anyone.
Save your money.

 

[JediNein]

Spend the pennies on the type. It'll make the next one much easier.

Study a little harder than the FO course and if you don't feel ready to take the type ride, don't.

Besides, what would you spend the thousand bucks on anyways, food? (If you need it for food, find a different company!)

 

[Dangerkitty]

Spend the pennies on the type. It'll make the next one much easier.

Thats some of the worst advice I have ever read here.

 

[Snoopy Mendoza]

It looks like it'll be about $1,000.

$1000.00?

Is that 3 or 4 weeks worth of take home pay?

:beer:

 

[El Bucho]

I'll make you a deal....you can give me $500. That way, you save 50%, and I'll have 500 bucks.

 

[propjob27]

Do you fly for Great Lakes?

 

[theskyking]

Airlines don't care how many type ratings you have. The only thing the type would allow you to do is do some contract work with a 135 E120 operation. Not much chance you will have enough legal time to do that. Save your money. One turboprop type is as good as any other. Let the company pay for it when the time comes.

 

[CF34-3B1]

I have to agree with the other posters here. Of my 3 type ratings, the EMB120 was by far the toughest. And I had almost 2000 hours in the right seat of the airplane when I got it. Trying to get typed in it with zero time in the airplane is a big undertaking. Unless you think you'll be doing contract work in a 120 somewhere, save the $ and put it towards a 737 type after you get the PIC in the B1900

 

[McNugget]

Do you fly for Great Lakes?

I would say he is probably at Gulfstream.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

You would be an idiot if you paid for a type rating.

 

[Trogdor]

Airlines don't care how many type ratings you have. .... One turboprop type is as good as any other. Let the company pay for it when the time comes.

I have to agree with this. When it comes to smaller turboprops, one turboprop type is as good as three or four. As far as the majors are concerned, a BE1900 = EM120 = J41 = Dash-8. They are all the same. Once again, don't waste your money and start a bad precedent for everyone who follows you.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

What's an extra Grand when you've already dumped 20-30K at Gulfstream already.

 

[embpic1]

I am betting you fly for Lakes. My advice as a former Laker is NOT pay for the type. You will have to take the same check ride again when you transition from the Beech to the E120. Don't be in such a hurry to get the type. Before you know it, the company will be paying for it. If you have a $1000 burning a hole in your pocket, invest it.

 

[KeroseneDream]

He's not a Lakes guy. No FO transitions here currently, have to wait for the upgrade to switch equipment.

 

[Flex81]

He's not a Lakes guy

Correct. They don't allow FO transitions from the beech to the bro

 

[Flex81]

and for the record, it would be very foolish to buy a type