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jetwash said:
Were those government policy makers unionized?
So I guess it wasn't the unions fault. :rolleyes:
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Nope, not the unions' fault! Ha! It only seems like I blame everything bad on unions, but not so! Here is an axiom to think about: almost every time you observe an economic upheaval or a disruption, the cause is some government action which caused an unintentional distortion in the marketplace. In this case, it was the desire or political leaders to allow lower income people to buy homes, forgetting that they don't live responsibly enough to make the payments. Go on youtube, you can see the hearings in which Republicans question the wisdom of this policy and Maxine Waters accuses them of racism. Pretty funny and tragic to watch.
 
Gret,

The point is the "Capitalists" are no different than us. The Capitalists don't like price competition regardless of definitions you post. They like Cartels as long as they are the ones benefiting. They like (NOT FREE MARKETS) but Government price setting as long as they benefit. Likewise Unions don't like Wage Competition, unless it is competition for higher wages.

Everything you needed to know was learned when you played Monopoly. Buy a monopoly. Build hotels on boardwalk and park place ... Then jack up the prices. Thats capitalism.

I am a Capitalist. I want a monopoly on pilot labor. If it were up to me ... no airplane would move on a commercial flight (anywhere) unless an NJASAP crew (paying union dues) were at the controls.

Likewise I know Santulli did not want to see a Fractional Flight move unless it was a Netjets flight.

Conan. What is best in Life?

To crush you enemy. To see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of there women.

Conan the Barbarian
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Conan the Barbarian - What is best in life?


That is Capitalism.
 
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gunfyter said:
Gret,

The point is the "Capitalists" are no different than us. The Capitalists don't like price competition regardless of definitions you post. They like Cartels as long as they are the ones benefiting. They like (NOT FREE MARKETS) but Government price setting as long as they benefit. Likewise Unions don't like Wage Competition, unless it is competition for higher wages.

Everything you needed to know was learned when you played Monopoly. Buy a monopoly. Build hotels on boardwalk and park place ... Then jack up the prices. Thats capitalism.

I am a Capitalist. I want a monopoly on pilot labor. If it were up to me ... no airplane would move on a commercial flight (anywhere) unless an NJASAP crew (paying union dues) were at the controls.


Likewise I know Santulli did not want to see a Fractional Flight move unless it was a Netjets flight.


Conan the Barbarian - What is best in life?


That is Capitalism.
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I disagree with your assessment of capitalism. A monopoly in a free market collapses under its own weight, which is a beneficial capitalist phenomenon. A government sanctioned monopoly goes forever and becomes more and more inefficient, an undesirable mercantilist or statist phenomenon. Capitalism doesn't care whether businesses like or dislike competition, it just provides it to the benefit of consumers and workers, automatically through billions of freely made decisions every day adjusting supply and demand and prices and wages and quantities of raw material and transportation and currency ebb and flow. All through voluntary agreements between buyer and seller and investor and producer and supplier and worker.
 
You know...gunfyter. G4dude, me and everyone else are saying the same thing, albeit (I love using that word) in a different way.

Gunfyter is the ultimate capitalist in that he wants everything, which is what a real capitalist believes in. The problem, the world can't survive if we all get everything we want.

Poor G4dude comes out with something that doesn't rhythm with union and gets his testicles almost cut off!

If a union comes in, so be it, but it won't save your butt...hard work and taking care of your clients is what works...and your employer is also a client. If they have idiots running the joint, it is simply bad luck and no union can save you from that.

In the end, if you work hard and keep your nose clean, you make above average dough, get good "treatment" from you wife (assuming you're bringing the bacon home), and get to go fishing once in awhile and maybe...buy a Corvette.
 
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gret said:
You know...gunfyter. G4dude, me and everyone else are saying the same thing, albeit (I love using that word) in a different way.

Gunfyter is the ultimate capitalist in that he wants everything, which is what a real capitalist believes in. The problem, the world can't survive if we all get everything we want.

Poor G4dude comes out with something that doesn't rhythm with union and gets his testicles almost cut off!

If a union comes in, so be it, but it won't save your butt...hard work and taking care of your clients is what works...and your employer is also a client. If they have idiots running the joint, it is simply bad luck and no union can save you from that.

In the end, if you work hard and keep your nose clean, you make above average dough, get good "treatment" from you wife (assuming you're bringing the bacon home), and get to go fishing once in awhile and maybe...buy a Corvette.
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Or invest in a business, one that does not require a medical certificate. I am gonna buy fixer upper houses and sell or rent them. Cheers!
 
No word on recalls. My bet is Embraer mid size and super mid. They seem to be more willing to give us the features we want.
 
Yep, I think the Challenger 300 is running a strong race too. I have a couple of buds at Flex who fly it and really like it.
 
gret said:
You know...gunfyter. G4dude, me and everyone else are saying the same thing, albeit (I love using that word) in a different way.

Gunfyter is the ultimate capitalist in that he wants everything, which is what a real capitalist believes in. The problem, the world can't survive if we all get everything we want.

Poor G4dude comes out with something that doesn't rhythm with union and gets his testicles almost cut off!
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Pretty good post.

G4 good post as well. But I submit recent events as more proof of what real capitalists want. Insider Trading and other cheating. I think we have just witnessed NAKED Capitalism.

And I recommend this book The Naked Capitalist That is if you want to discover who the real criminal organization is in this world.


To bash the Unions as criminal organizations and say nothing about the malfeasance of management .... is very B19ish :laugh:.
 
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Flew a demo trip for Netjets last week. Picked up a couple famous faces and took them from ICT-CMH. Every piece brought on the plane had Learjet 85 on it. Very dependable source quoted 100 aircraft deal done by the end of summer.
 
CorpCaptain said:
Flew a demo trip for Netjets last week. Picked up a couple famous faces and took them from ICT-CMH. Every piece brought on the plane had Learjet 85 on it. Very dependable source quoted 100 aircraft deal done by the end of summer.
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Cool.

Any mention of us getting our jobs back?

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Didnt get that far. Also added the first 45 with Garmin will be in about the 440-450 serial # range (See 2nd qtr 2012). The 85 passenger seats in the 45 will also be a new change with the Garmin 5k. Should be a heck of a upgrade for those purchasing one. Keeping the fingers for all your guys waiting for a callback-
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CorpCaptain said:
Flew a demo trip for Netjets last week. Picked up a couple famous faces and took them from ICT-CMH. Every piece brought on the plane had Learjet 85 on it. Very dependable source quoted 100 aircraft deal done by the end of summer.
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Unless I'm missing something...why would they have Lear 85 stuff while coming out of Wichita? I was pretty certain the Lear was a Bombardier product? No?
 

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