BM Airways

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Hey all-

Saw today that BM is hiring ... anyone know anything about them? The jobs are for their SJU operation it appears ... I have only heard of them vaguely.

 

[barnyard]

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5 Yr. Contract, end of story.

 

[kepjet]

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5 Yr. Contract, end of story.

Barnyard,

Isn't that our good friend The Gaut's picture of him being off 100 feet on altitude and climbing? LOL!!

I also noticed you updated your profile to reflect his resume. CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even after a few days since the slaughter, I still laugh a lot about this. Just hope they bring back the thread!

-See ya

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

I didn't know there was a Bowel Movement Airways?

 

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5 Yr. Contract, end of story.

5 year contract? Holy hell! No thank you!

 

[Capt_robert]

5 year

Hey
I know numerous friends that have left the company without any problems. Rumor has, the reason for the class is some of the capts will be going to the 727

 

[newshooterxprss]

5 Pilots left in 3 weeks. The best advice you wll ever receive....Stay away!!! That place is bad news. If you like PR, check out Eagle, Fina Air, or Caribbean Sun, all reputable air carriers based in PR currently hiring. Check out previous posts for all the dirt on this place. Better adivce, ask a Pan Am furloughee what he thinks of BMA for a true perspective.

 

[Endir1001]

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Yeah well just to let you know,

I have had two friends hired get through the ground training and sim and then get totally snuffed by the company. Luckily they were able to find some real jobs rather quickly. PCL and Shuttle AM.

They fly into my home KGON and regularly have empty aircraft coming and going, or sometimes at most one pax one way, I dont know how they can stay afloat running at such low capacities. Just FYI. But good luck what ever you decide.

 

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I have had two friends hired get through the ground training and sim and then get totally snuffed by the company. Luckily they were able to find some real jobs rather quickly. PCL and Shuttle AM.

What do you mean by "snuffed"? Were these friends capt newhires or FO newhires?

Thanks

 

[cargoflyr69]

I heard that BM airways might start service out of Trenton, NJ or Bedford, MA. now that Shuttle America is pulling out. Anyone else heard this one?

 

[newshooterxprss]

Shuttle's decision to pull out of a market that has 60 percent plus loads consistently doesn't make much sense, but I heard the same thing. Don't fret I am sure BMA will find a way to screw up a good market, they usually do.

Answer to your question, I have firends as well that were in that class and after giving 4 months of their lives and hard work unpaid to the company and finishing thier rides, they were furloughed with only an explanation that the company made a 5 million dollar financial "error". The guys I know were lucky enough to move onto new carriers.

In any case some BMA J31 guys might be asked to go to 727 school and "cross the line" soon. I hope they make the right decision, but I am sure some will not. The industry and especially ALPA members should keep a good eye on who those individuals are. Nuthin' like firing and getting rid of ALPA pilots to put non-union lower wage far less qualified pilots in their seats under a new certificate number. (BMA Pan Am Clipper Connection and Pan American Airways share the same hangar and offices in PSM and are owned by the same holding company, and run by the same man who broke the union at his Railroad whereby breaking the Railway Labor Act) Some may say you're not a scab unless you physically cross a line.... If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck....IT's A DUCK! Perhaps if the only thing left to call a duck a duck is a physical line up of Pan Am furloughees then maybe that line needs to be formed in Florida.

As I said...Stay away.

 

[capitan]

newshooterxprss

Wow, you are one angry dude...

 

[angrynhpilot]

I second everything newshooter said. STAY AWAY FROM BOSTON-MAINE AIRWAYS. The management will run you into the ground. DO NOT believe a word they are staying. The few pilots they have left are leaving because the industry is finally turning around and ANYWHERE is better than BMA. The 5 year training contract is true, also the biggest piece of human waste owns the company and everyone below him is a yes bunch. NO common sense or heart. BMA will soon be considered a union busting operation if they get the 727s on the BMA certificate, owner wants to crush Pan-AM union. ASK ALPA. STAY AWAY!!!!!
You've been warned!

 

[PSM727]

I third Newshooter's comments. I worked for BMA and then Pan Am where i was furloughed. It's unbelievable how bad it is over there. Stay far far away.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Is C.C. still the chief pilot? Or did he excercise his one and only shot for a dipsh!t to fly a Boeing?

 

[SkyMonkey]

He is still Chief Pilot but is not involved in the Boeing stuff.

Last I heard he and John Pearl are trying to get something going in the Caribbean with the CASA.

 

[WOXOF]

Having been an ALPA member for 18 years, I cannot just sit by and listen to all this nonsense. First, to Newshooterxpress, if it looks like a duck... is completely irrelevant. You obviosly have a problem with what your airline is doing, and, of course, you are entitled to your opinion. Calling your fellow pilots the "S" word is the problem.
Fortunately for us all, pilots are not labeled as such because someone does not like them or their airline. There is only one way to become a "S" and that is by crossing an active strike, or picket line. Why fortunately? Because here is a small list of airlines that have, or are infringing on other pilots: Continental. Continental Express. Peoples Express. Bar Harbor Airlines. Comair. Ryan Airlines. United Airlines. Express.Net Airlines. Northeast Airlines. Capitol. And on and on.
So, yes, go ask ALPA what they think, they will be more than happy to tell you. ALPA does not condone labeling pilots as "S"s just for fun.

 

[Capt_robert]

New cut backs

Maybe it's the ALPA boys demands, that cause's airlines to react like this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3489761.stm

For the industry to survive, it needs to change and that includes all us pilots

 

[727PAA]

What demands are you talking about? Are you still with the B'M thread or did you jump this thread to talk about Ryan air?

I agree that no one should be labeled a "S" without crossing a picket line. That being said I know that if you go to B-M Airways with the intention of flying a 727 you are knowingly hurting the pilots at Pan Am. So because I was formerly a pilot at PAA I will do my best to make sure that you wont' get a job at any place I work at. And there are many of the former PAA pilot group that have gone onto many of the "good jobs" that these people may someday want.

I hold nothing against the J31 or C212 drivers there, in fact I know what they have had to put up with by being there.

Good luck to all. I would just not be rushing to fly a 727 for B-M, and that's just my advice

 

[capitan]

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Like me, I hold nothing against any Continental Express pilots, exept the ones that flew the Beech 1900C. Not the 1900 D, or B, just the ones that flew the C. They will never get good jobs if I have anything to say about it!!!!!!!!!!!