BM Airways

[727PAA]

I guess you know not of what you speak...I guess you see it as being more favorable to you if they started flying Continental's 737's, or 777's. If you don't see the difference between a person flying a C/D model or a mainline aircraft there really are big problems with your view of our industry.

People get on Mesa for starting the trip to the bottom. I guess you also see that your profession would be better if Mesa started flying US Airways Airbuses for 30K.

Just a little more perspective. I hear that they want to pay the B-M pilots straight salary for flying the 727. 60K for Captain 40K for F/O's and F/E's. I guess that works for the people that were flying J Balls for 24K.

So where will the race to the bottom stop...I guess you see the folks willing to take those pay rates as just opportunists looking out for themselves. Well in my case I hope they intend to make B-M a career. Because if I have anything to do with it they won't go anywhere else.

 

[PSM727]

Pay Rates

It's all true. And to the person talking about Ryan saying that maybe the reason for all of this is because the ALPA pilots at PAA were killing the company, not true at all. $40K a year is more than i was making as a first year FO on the 727 as an ALPA pilot there (lowest paid ALPA pilots in the country i believe). It's pretty obvious that Fink just plain doesn't want a union at his company, i'm sure due to his history with them at the railroad. So he is willing to bust up the union and hire pilots at a higher rate from the non-union BM so he can have total control.

 

[Capt_robert]

Your own airline

Hey 727PAA
If you want to stop BM pilots from working other airlines, then you and your ALPA friends should go buy a airline. I think US Air or United can offer you good deals.
Oh, I forgot, AlPA had a board seat on United, and the airline still went bust.
Good Luck in airline management 101

 

[727PAA]

Not all the B-M pilots...just the ones that choose to go fly the Pan Am B727's.

 

[NYJETSflyer]

J31 in TTN

Heard there was a J31 in Trenton yesterday. Are they starting service between BED-TTN?

And are they going to call back the Furloughed guys who haven't found other flying jobs?

Just my 2cents, the TTN BED flight is actually a very pretty flight, especially at night up the coast!! Not to mention whoever takes it over, the loads are always good and the BED TTN ground crews are awesome!!!!

later
nyjetsflyer

 

[capitan]

"Just a little more perspective. I hear that they want to pay the B-M pilots straight salary for flying the 727. 60K for Captain 40K for F/O's and F/E's.
So where will the race to the bottom stop..."


AND THEN POSTED BY: PSM 727:


"$40K a year is more than i was making as a first year FO on the 727 as an ALPA pilot there (lowest paid ALPA pilots in the country i believe)....."


Well, now we know where the race to the bottom stops...

 

[727PAA]

Hey Capt Robert.

Do/Did you work for B-M? Or, is it just your friends that did? If your friends left the company, then why did they leave.

I think B-M is a great place to go if you need some turbine time, as well as turbine PIC time.

Are you angry with ALPA? Is it the Pan American pilots you hate? I am trying to get what your true beef is.

I am not ALPA..and my friends that work there don't run ALPA national or any other airline, so I am unsure why people keep bringing up United and other carriers.

If they/you know any of the pilots at B/M that have been there for a while ask them why the company wouldn't allow them to flow through to the Pan Am certificate as F/O's like they promised them. Don't tell me its because they didn't want to.

The last thing I will say is that if you do go there, ask yourself what you will do when the company tells you to violate a FAR, or be fired. Which road will you choose when that happens?

Because if you are a certain Pan Am captain it meant being fired to keep his certificates.

Disclaimer:

My opinions are mine and mine alone. They are in no way linked or associated with the Airline Pilots Association, Pan American Airlines, United Airlines, Delta Airlines, Northwest Airlines, ATA Airlines, Southeast Airlines, North American Airlines, Miami Air, Skywest, Comair, Piedmont, Colgan, or any other certificated air carrier.

 

[Lightning]

Newspaper


http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/.../news/39101.htm
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http://www.wmtw.com/Global/story.asp?S=2340645
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiheral...ess/9741065.htm
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/...4/1003/BUSINESS
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap.../ap1557838.html

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