Bloomberg: AMR 737's

[Angus Khan]

Bloomberg currently reporting that AMR looking at replacing all Super 80's with 737s. I guess that's a strong indication there's no 797 out there sometime "soon". Where's the money going to come from to buy or rent these things?

 

[ultrarunner]

Cash....just lay on the debt.

 

[Jetjockey]

The money is not the big problem, it's getting production slots from Boeing. Good luck on that one AMR. Between CAL, SWA, and the overseas airlines, I believe the 737 production book is very full right now. Any link to the article?

 

[alaskaplt]

As long as it is not by buying Alaska!

 

[SlapShot]

I do not believe there are any delivery slots available for the 737 until 2009. Boeing would not even increase production for SWA. I would imagine if Airbus knows AMR is looking for a replacement for the -80s they will give them any of the 320 family for free. If they gave them to JetBlue, they might actually pay AMR to fly them. Heck they might even throw in some simulators.

 

[Angus Khan]

On Bloomberg tv it was shown on the bottom of the screen. I don't know any more than that. Maybe they'll be buying Delta's production slots.

 

[TV9Driver]

is it all 737 slots that are full or is it just the -700 slots that are full? AA flies the -800 maybe there are more of those to be had....

i dunno...

 

[General Lee]

On Bloomberg tv it was shown on the bottom of the screen. I don't know any more than that. Maybe they'll be buying Delta's production slots.

We did not give up all of our slots, in fact we have 10 737-700s and a couple 738s still scheduled for 2007-2008. We did sell some though, to a couple of lessors. Maybe 25 slots?

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ils2minimums]

Any link to the article?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a3vojU4fCkWI

 

[AvroGuy]

I do not believe there are any delivery slots available for the 737 until 2009. Boeing would not even increase production for SWA. I would imagine if Airbus knows AMR is looking for a replacement for the -80s they will give them any of the 320 family for free. If they gave them to JetBlue, they might actually pay AMR to fly them. Heck they might even throw in some simulators.

This may be true since everyone is getting away from the A380 and the company is losing is rear end on it.

 

[AA717driver]

Anything less than 200 aircraft is pointless. In fact, anything less than the current number of 80's won't help. They need all the mainline they can get.

Eagle is limping badly in terms of feed to AA due to not being able to attract pilots, scope restrictions, etc. I believe management is figuring out that EA isn't the "golden goose" they once thought.

I believe Boeing would do what is necessary to keep AA as a customer. Besides, this is a long-term solution. The 80 fleet isn't exactly falling apart. (Well, no more than usual. )

Delta can keep their "massive" order for 737's... TC

 

[AA767AV8TOR]

I do not believe there are any delivery slots available for the 737 until 2009. Boeing would not even increase production for SWA. I would imagine if Airbus knows AMR is looking for a replacement for the -80s they will give them any of the 320 family for free. If they gave them to JetBlue, they might actually pay AMR to fly them. Heck they might even throw in some simulators.

From today's Dallas Morning News:


In other matters, executives also said American is still mulling how to replace its aging fleet of more than 300 McDonnell Douglas MD-80 jets. But American's contract with the Boeing Co. provides that American can get delivery 15 to 18 months after placing an order, Mr. Horton said.

AA767AV8TOR

 

[B727Driver]

Buy AirTran, that gives AMR 100 737's and a bunch of 717's (same type rating as the DC-9-80) and a bunch of gates in ATL. The 717's are new and can serve the short haul market while the 737 helps with the longer stages, longer than the MD-80 served. This would take care of 200 of the 300 airplane problem and add the 15-18 month cut in the production line. Kick this one around. Stranger things have happened.

P.S. Mgmt doesn't care what pilots think or about how this will impact their careers.

 

[pkober]

They already had 717's and got rid of them.

 

[AA717driver]

They already had 717's and got rid of them.

Yeah! D@MN YOU CARTY!!!



TC

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Buy AirTran, that gives AMR 100 737's and a bunch of 717's (same type rating as the DC-9-80) and a bunch of gates in ATL. The 717's are new and can serve the short haul market while the 737 helps with the longer stages, longer than the MD-80 served. This would take care of 200 of the 300 airplane problem and add the 15-18 month cut in the production line. Kick this one around. Stranger things have happened.

P.S. Mgmt doesn't care what pilots think or about how this will impact their careers.

Yeah, AA can LBO Airtran, staple the Airtran guys to the bottom and, when they get rid of the Super 80's and 717s, furlough the booger out of the Airtran dudes. Then, when the recession hits, leave Atlanta.

Wait...they already did something like that. Since it worked once, why not try it again?

 

[AA717driver]

Yeah, AA can LBO Airtran, staple the Airtran guys to the bottom and, when they get rid of the Super 80's and 717s, furlough the booger out of the Airtran dudes. Then, when the recession hits, leave Atlanta.

Wait...they already did something like that. Since it worked once, why not try it again?

Yeah, and in the process, rape the travelling public on ticket prices in ATL. If something works, run with it... TC

 

[TV9Driver]

don't make me take the german weinerschnietzel up the ole keister again!! one fair and equitable merger with AA was enough. I still have a hard time sitting down without my doughnut....

 

[Don Carty]

Yeah! D@MN YOU CARTY!!!

Well and a big D@MN YOU right back. I am continually astounded by the AArogance displayed by pilots. You do NOT have the big picture.

I'll let you in on a little secret... the microbe infestation of the MD-80 fuel tanks: We commanded our loyal maintenance branch to cease adding the anti-microbials, and to discontinue the water-sep procedure, in order to save money. This would make our stock rise, and create huge bonuses for the people who are REALLY needed - management - at AA. Our secondary hope was that Boeing would fix them for free, but unfortunately they discovered that we did not follow standard procedure, and now we're stuck with infested MD-80'd we can't get rid of.

Ahhh, that's all in the past for me now. I wish I was back at AA, ready to recieve a huge PUP bonus in April. Kudos to Arpey for blazing a trail of sacrifice - of labor! Hahahaha!

 

[AA717driver]

Good one, Don. Hey, I heard you were angling for a spot on the Skybus BOD just to hedge your bets in case VA's app gets shot down again and they tell you to hit the bricks. Something about too much foreign influence...

Good luck! TC

 

[SkiFishFly]

Buy AirTran, that gives AMR 100 737's and a bunch of 717's (same type rating as the DC-9-80) and a bunch of gates in ATL. The 717's are new and can serve the short haul market while the 737 helps with the longer stages, longer than the MD-80 served. This would take care of 200 of the 300 airplane problem and add the 15-18 month cut in the production line. Kick this one around. Stranger things have happened.

P.S. Mgmt doesn't care what pilots think or about how this will impact their careers.

Oh god please don't do that!!!