Bidding on LAG and DCA Slot packets

[General Lee]

I guess you assume that their isn't already a plan in place for additional slots cheaper now that our competition just overpaid? AA and Republic will be divesting slots in the next 90's unless something miraculous happens for both carriers. Most likely at a better price than what JetBlue just paid. Gary Kelly has not made many blunders in his time at the helm. I'd bet their is a bigger plan in play here.

Yeah, and Van Gogh paintings keep getting cheaper..... Once someone pays something for something limited, the price usually goes up. The Gov't don't own the slots, the airlines do. If they want to sell them in the future, they now know what the base price should be for slots during rush hour pushes.

Could there be a bigger plan out there? Sure. If USAir buys into AA, then they might have to divest some slots, although the AA slots out of DCA mainly go to ORD, DFW, and MIA, none of which USAir Mainline flies to from DCA. No real overlap there. Can you think of some more mergers that seem to be realistic in the near future that could involve overlap at LGA or DCA?



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Now that's funny ....

Thanks Tanker Clown.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[On Your Six]

Thanks Tanker Clown.


Bye Bye--General Lee

No, Slaquer doesn't have the sharp wit Tankerclown has. He might be his dull, idiot brother. And those rumors the Corndogs are possibly hearing about buying JB, probably mirror rumors of us possibly buying them too. Who knows? But what is known is that SWA didn't get any of those slots.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[Flying the Line]

Delta is the only real winner in this deal. They are the majority player in LGA and got paid a ton of money in the auction. This concludes this thread.

 

[JetMonkey]

I'd say US Airways is another winner here as well. With the new slots added to their already domination in DCA means that DCA will no longer be a "focus city" but a new Hub.

 

[General Lee]

Delta is the only real winner in this deal. They are the majority player in LGA and got paid a ton of money in the auction. This concludes this thread.

I think Delta paid $100 million to get slots and terminal 2 (?), and then got $60 million to give up 16 slots. Not bad to now have over 50% of LGA slots.



Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[$$$4nothin]

I am going to go head and say JB and WJ are winners here also. Getting the most coveted slots in the U.S.

 

[kwick]

Well hurry up with it already will ya

Better hope it's anybody but SW.

I don't even think the largest airline,
Delta, would try to play that "staple"
BS.

 

[Smarta$$]

I guess you assume that their isn't already a plan in place for additional slots cheaper now that our competition just overpaid? AA and Republic will be divesting slots in the next 90's unless something miraculous happens for both carriers. Most likely at a better price than what JetBlue just paid. Gary Kelly has not made many blunders in his time at the helm. I'd bet their is a bigger plan in play here.

I am pretty sure that IF additional slots are divested, they will STILL be subject to the highest bidder, and JetBlue will compete aggressively for those slots also. So either way, you will pay top dollar or you won't get any additional slots.

It seems strange that I would have to point that out to you...

 

[madjack]

SWA didn't get any of those slots.


The end of SWA is at hand!! Just ask the 100,000,000 folks who fly us?

 

[Flyby1206]

SWA still has a good number of slots at LGA. Even with JB winning some slots from this process I think SWA still has a few more than JB.

I dont think DCA is as big of a deal for SWA considering the size of their operation at BWI. Yes it would have been nice if they won some DCA slots, but its not the end of the world by far.

 

[slaquer5]

I am pretty sure that IF additional slots are divested, they will STILL be subject to the highest bidder, and JetBlue will compete aggressively for those slots also. So either way, you will pay top dollar or you won't get any additional slots.

It seems strange that I would have to point that out to you...

Since you seem to be in the know could you answer a question? IF SWA acquired JB, what would be the expectations of the JB pilots ?

 

[General Lee]

Since you seem to be in the know could you answer a question? IF SWA acquired JB, what would be the expectations of the JB pilots ?

You mean if a certain legacy bought them because SWA underbids, again? That Airtran purchase sure hit you guys financially it seems. Also, JB's friend Sen. Schumer of NY would make sure any purchase kept most of the airline together, which takes away your management threats (and retired management at that!). Nobody will fall for that again.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[$$$4nothin]

Since you seem to be in the know could you answer a question? IF SWA acquired JB, what would be the expectations of the JB pilots ?

Whatever there current year of pay is on the SW pay scale. Whatever seat a JB pilot ended up holding after a fair and equitable merger of seniority lists. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. No one wins or loses big. However the Airtran guys already set a precident on what the JB pilots will get.

 

[On Your Six]

Whatever there current year of pay is on the SW pay scale. Whatever seat a JB pilot ended up holding after a fair and equitable merger of seniority lists. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. No one wins or loses big. However the Airtran guys already set a precident on what the JB pilots will get.

Forcing them set a precedent? They would have done better in arbitration, and the SWA pilots and management knew it. Jetblue pilots just won't fall for that with anyone. Arbitration is the answer, along with fences. Separate pay for the 717 guys at AT (old AT pay) was not the answer, and everyone knows it too.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[Scoot 11]

Since you seem to be in the know could you answer a question? IF SWA acquired JB, what would be the expectations of the JB pilots ?

Oh brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe the whole world should just kiss your collective asses.
For the love of God man, just let it go. You work for a world class company. Can't you just leave it at that?

 

[General Lee]

Oh brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe the whole world should just kiss your collective asses.
For the love of God man, just let it go. You work for a world class company. Can't you just leave it at that?

They can't! They won't be satisfied until they have every passenger flying within TEXAS. That is their top goal, followed by owning every other LCC out there without widebodies. Spirit and then Great Lakes are next, and you had BETTER take their lame offer, or retired management may come in and say something NASTY to scare you.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Smarta$$]

Since you seem to be in the know could you answer a question? IF SWA acquired JB, what would be the expectations of the JB pilots ?

Seriously??? You guys are a bunch of class-less jackA$$$$$$. Those at the top fall hard, you should all remember that humility is respected, arrogance, not so much.

 

[slaquer5]

Oh brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe the whole world should just kiss your collective asses.
For the love of God man, just let it go. You work for a world class company. Can't you just leave it at that?

I meant no dis repect to any JB pilot. I was just asking how they feel. Sorry to anyone at JB that I offennded.

 

[Whataburger]

They can't! They won't be satisfied until they have every passenger flying within TEXAS. That is their top goal, followed by owning every other LCC out there without widebodies. Spirit and then Great Lakes are next, and you had BETTER take their lame offer, or retired management may come in and say something NASTY to scare you.



Bye Bye---General Lee

general Cheese, Did momma let you out of the basement to eat some turkey? Or did you sit down there playing SuperMario with hardened, Cheetle-stained socks scattered about? OR, due to stagnation at Delta, did you spend Thanksgiving in Cairo, again?

In the airline world, I am Thankful for the interviewing and new hire classes at SWA. Hopefully you are Thankful for the interviewing and new hire classes at Delta.......right?