Best way to the Corporate? Advise needed

[Christopher3331]

I am starting out w/ 0 flight hrs and am looking the for the best way into the corporate end of flying. I've looked a regionals but not what I would prefer. Do schools matter (i.e. Flight Safety or small virtully unknown school) as long as you get your ratings. My main focus is on some type of assistance in finding a job after getting all the ratings. Looking for advise-

 

[miles otoole]

I am starting out w/ 0 flight hrs and am looking the for the best way into the corporate end of flying. I've looked a regionals but not what I would prefer. Do schools matter (i.e. Flight Safety or small virtully unknown school) as long as you get your ratings. My main focus is on some type of assistance in finding a job after getting all the ratings. Looking for advise-

It's advice. Mine is to get your college degree first.

 

[leardawg]

Obtaining experience and maintaining a clean record are important, but ultimately making connections is what will get you in the door. The average corporation is rather picky on who they hire. Your chances of walking in cold and unknown and even getting an interview are slim. If you develop a good reputation in your area and with fellow pilots who are willing to put in a good word for you, you are much more likely to have opportunities suddenly become available. Many corporations look for a college degree, but not having one is not an insurmountable obstacle (it just completes the package).

Obtaining flight instructor certificate(s) is normally the quickest way to obtain flight hours and experience. Obtain a multi-engine rating at some point along the way. Have a good work ethic, fly safely, and keep your nose clean. Get to know corporate pilots in your area. Read magazines such as Business & Commercial Aviation and Pro Pilot to gain insights into the industry. You'll find that opportunities will eventually present themselves (you might even get a "tap on the shoulder" with a job offer out of the blue).

Then there's also the Secret Handshake. One day, this may be revealed to you, but if I showed you now, I'd have to eliminate you!

Good luck!

 

[MissKittyKat]

I have to agree with leardawg, get your degree, and network! I have dropped a few hints here and there about corporate and flying too. Since my boyfriend is too lazy to write a cover letter, I do it for him, so experiment as to which cover letters work and don't work.

the standard cover letters DO NOT WORK, example HI my name is joe and I have such and such amount of hours.

Be honest in your cover letters, if you want to work for xxxx company and get a response then honesty is the part that will get yu the job, if you don't have the type rating, then specify it, by doing so, he got a new type rating.

Be commited to what you want to do for the company, sometimes they will take someone without a typerating.

While your employed on your cover letter, you could say something Like " I'm looking for a change of scenery" ALWAYS INCLUDE YOUR CURRENT SALARY, as well, fresh people and fresh faces who are willing to go the extra mile get the job, end your cover letter with, I HOPE everyone at xxxx has a great weekend! always! This works!

 

[oiltycoon]

On a similar note, I am a 121 regional pilot wanting to hop the fence into the corporate world. However, I have no network on this side of the industry. I have my eye on one particular company but I don't know anyone within the company. Advice?

 

[Bandit60]

On a similar note, I am a 121 regional pilot wanting to hop the fence into the corporate world. However, I have no network on this side of the industry. I have my eye on one particular company but I don't know anyone within the company. Advice?

PRAY?

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I have to agree with leardawg, get your degree, and network! I have dropped a few hints here and there about corporate and flying too. Since my boyfriend is too lazy to write a cover letter, I do it for him, so experiment as to which cover letters work and don't work.

the standard cover letters DO NOT WORK, example HI my name is joe and I have such and such amount of hours.

Be honest in your cover letters, if you want to work for xxxx company and get a response then honesty is the part that will get yu the job, if you don't have the type rating, then specify it, by doing so, he got a new type rating.

Be commited to what you want to do for the company, sometimes they will take someone without a typerating.

While your employed on your cover letter, you could say something Like " I'm looking for a change of scenery" ALWAYS INCLUDE YOUR CURRENT SALARY, as well, fresh people and fresh faces who are willing to go the extra mile get the job, end your cover letter with, I HOPE everyone at xxxx has a great weekend! always! This works!

wow.

quit hogging, pass that thing around.

 

[semperfido]

While your employed on your cover letter, you could say something Like " I'm looking for a change of scenery" ALWAYS INCLUDE YOUR CURRENT SALARY, as well, fresh people and fresh faces who are willing to go the extra mile get the job, end your cover letter with, I HOPE everyone at xxxx has a great weekend! always! This works!

uuuuhh....pure unadulterated BS

 

[leardawg]

On a similar note, I am a 121 regional pilot wanting to hop the fence into the corporate world. However, I have no network on this side of the industry. I have my eye on one particular company but I don't know anyone within the company. Advice?

Find out who the boss' daughter is, date her and marry her.

 

[leardawg]

Actually, I can't think of any easy way. You can submit your resume and hope for the best, but don't hold your breath. If you are really intent on flying for this company, you might consider getting a job at the airport where they are based. Do good work and develop a good reputation among the local pilot community. It might take a while. In the meantime, something better might come along.

 

[MissKittyKat]

Leardawg, I have to say your truly a breath of fresh air! If you don't care for my advice, then don't read it.

I too was once looking to get into corporate and found my way there.

No one is hogging nothing, this is the Christmas spirit some screennames legitimately want advice.

I just gave out an example of experience with covers letters, when your hot to trott and need a job, sometimes you must be creative in your letters to get the chief pilot to look at what you have to offer.

Merry Christmas!
Love MissKittyKat

 

[MissKittyKat]

ps persistance pays and the job market is competative. I spent one year banging or resumes and finally someone bit!

 

[MissKittyKat]

Good advice leardawg, keep up the good work my friend! my boy is a lear guy too! nice plane!

 

[leardawg]

Leardawg, I have to say your truly a breath of fresh air!

Hey, I can stink it up with the best of them! (Just ask Pilot Adjuster or Jarhead!).

 

[MissKittyKat]

ah come on! smiling! LOL

Ok here is the answer of the evening. network, network, network.

Do not let anyone tell you "you can't do it"!

 

[leardawg]

ah come on! smiling! LOL

Ok here is the answer of the evening. network, network, network.

Do not let anyone tell you "you can't do it"!

Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying that in a negative way. I mean to say I can get down and dirty if the right buttons are pushed, and it's admittedly quite cathartic!

I agree on the networking thing. Every job I've been hired for in aviation (5 in all) was in large part due to someone I knew on the inside. I've turned down a few jobs offered to me by colleagues I had worked with in a previous job. I applied for 2 jobs without knowing anyone on the inside, and didn't get either. It's who you know. Good or bad, that's a fact.

 

[MissKittyKat]

Honey your not negative at all! I love your style! and you have a nice avatar!

Reminds of something! lol, I may send you a pm!

 

[murdock]

Hey Christopher3331, the one thing that helped me get in is Most of the major corps really want someone who is driven and can be a team player. During my junior at UND, I went around to a number of corp flight departments and basically started an intern program with them. This helped to get to know the right people and the people they know. One of the senior pilots, told me that my intern was bascially a three month interview. Graduated from UND a year later and with 280tt and 50 multi, I was hired into a CL650 and now G-IV. He was right and I was lucky. Start Networking while in college, make it part of your training.

P.S.-I know Walmart had interns during the summer, great way to get in.

 

[Storm Chaser]

While working on your ratings try knocking on corp. doors and see if they need any help around the hangar. Washing Planes, cleaning the hanger whatever it takes to get in the door. Plus you will need the etra $$$ to help pay rent while you try to build your time.
Storm

 

[MissKittyKat]

Thanks Murdock and storm, nice to see some real people sharing their ideas, and positivness, it takes work right?

Those with good advice, have good advice, and many people who join here and have flown, are willing to share any tips and true advice!

I enjoyed reading yours posts and helping the person who was asking!