best regionals to work for?

[hockeypilot44]

air wisconsin - stagnant, but not bad
asa - fighting with management, losing planes to skywest
skywest - undercutting asa
mesa - need i say more
comair- about to take pay cuts, no growth, future up in air
tsa - *************************s fiasco, furloughing
*************************s - growing, but ********************ty airline to peers
chautauqua/shuttle/republic - growing, decent pay, ********************ty airline to peers
horizon - no growth
expressjet - excellent contract, but no growth
pinnacle - ********************ty contract, ********************ty pft pilots
mesaba - going backwards
psa - not bad, but no new upgrades in months or years
piedmont - they fly dashes

if i had to pick one as a cfi, i would probably take chautauqua yet everyone here bashes it along with mesa and other airlines. there's nothing out there much better. maybe go jets, but not worth it due to our peers. i get tired of seeing airlines bashed here all the time. we're all pilots trying to make a living, and we all want the best pay and quality of life that we can get. stop looking down on each other. every regional kind of sucks right now.

 

[SXMp2c]

i always wanted to be the second person on a 10 page thread.

id go to chautauqua except they just upgraded some real douchbags...

 

[kevdog]

I would say the best regional to work for would be one with the quickest upgrade, even if it's a turboprop. Build your 121 PIC time and go get a job that you can live off of.

If you happen to have a husband/wife supporting you and money isn't an issue, then obviously the best regional job would be whatever is best for your QOL.

 

[fried chickens]

They're all regionals and they all have good points and bad ones. They might not fly regional routes anymore or or even be in one area but still pull in a lot of people from their major bases.

Nothing wrong with someone from Seatle wanting to fly at Horizon (no growth) instead of Comair flying out of MCO. Or someone from SLC wanting to fly for Skywest(non-union, ASA problem) instead of Xjet out of Cleveland. Samething for folks out of PHX who rather fly for Mesa (labor hating mgmt) instead of AWACs out of whatever east coast city they fly out of now. They're all regionals and have something for everyone (quicker upgrade, don't have to commute, a dollar more pay, hotter F/A,....

 

[hockeypilot44]

i agree. get tired of seeing ******************** taco, hojets, freedumb......especially from eagle, comair, and asa guys. your airlines not any better. comair voted for two pay concessions. chautauqua never did. mesa had to take a ********************ty contract to get rid of freedom. asa isn't doing so good right now, but it's delta's fault these other airlines are flying in ATL, not the pilots. grow up you immature little boys.

 

[threegreen]

You don't HAVE to go to a regional. Don't forget the cargo guys: amflight, airnet, etc!

 

[QXpeon]

You don't HAVE to get paid more than 19K per year either.

 

[Alchemy]

I would say Expressjet, Skywest, Horizon and Chautauqua, in that order. Pick the one that has a base you can move to or commute easily from. That's if you don't have any connections at the majors and don't just need quick PIC time. Personally I have no 4-year degree and no connections so I"ll be here for awhile. Oh well.

If you just need PIC time I hear Mesa is hiring street captains for the Dash-8, and pilots are always leaving Pinnacle in hordes, doubt it would take more than 2 years there. Don't base your decision on what everyone else thinks about the company, do what's best for yourself within reason (i.e. don't scab or do gayjets).

 

[PacoPollo]

BigSky

 

[Turkey Shoot]

My favorite question, which regional? It's like asking which Port-A-Crapper to go int for your business, they all stink.

 

[jws717]

just remember beggers cant be chosers. And if you hear about a fast upgrade, you missed it. CHQ,REP,Shuttle are at the end of their growth, things will start to suck there.

 

[TWAER]

just remember beggers cant be chosers. And if you hear about a fast upgrade, you missed it. CHQ,REP,Shuttle are at the end of their growth, things will start to suck there.

Right, I have been hearing that for about 5 years now from guys like you. Not saying the quick upgrades will last forever, but I think they will last for a bit longer.

 

[bizzum]

just out of curiosity, hockeypilot, what is wrong with piedmont's dashes? worry more about pay and contract than if it has props or jets......JMHO

 

[capt. megadeth]

And if you hear about a fast upgrade, you missed it.

That is so true bro.

 

[RAV152]

And if you hear about a fast upgrade, you missed it.

Amen brother.

 

[lowlycfi]

Head or gut?

 

[G2T]

1. piedmont - they fly dashes

2. maybe go jets...i get tired of seeing airlines bashed here all the time.

1. Absolutely, there may not be a lot of movement there but you would get to fly a legend. Not many dash drivers out there have any regrets. Also, see thread, "Here's to you t-prop man". Good stuff.

2. Have you read anything on here regarding this before? That took guts to even post.

As others have said before, 121 is 121 is 121. Whether you have 19 or 90 people behind you we are all doing the same thing (and in many cases getting paid the same amount). Maybe you should worry about being hired somewhere first and figure out WHO WANTS YOU, before you get so concerned about who you want. Happy Instructing!

 

[hockeypilot44]

just out of curiosity, hockeypilot, what is wrong with piedmont's dashes? worry more about pay and contract than if it has props or jets......JMHO

nothing. piedmont's fleet is pretty old and i sometimes wonder how much longer piedmont will be around. i know they own their planes, and the planes are profitable, but you can't fly them forever. e.g. chocks. what do i know though? the flow-throught to mainline could come through, or piedmont could get newer aircraft.

 

[arthompson]

Thats Chalk's, Chocks are what keep your airplane from rolling after it's turned off and the hydraulic pressure bleeds off. <sorry HP just ragging you>

Piedmont is suppose to be leasing additional Q300's and -100's

 

[BigLebowski]

air wisconsin - stagnant, but not bad
asa - fighting with management, losing planes to skywest
skywest - undercutting asa
mesa - need i say more
comair- about to take pay cuts, no growth, future up in air
tsa - *************************s fiasco, furloughing
*************************s - growing, but ********************ty airline to peers
chautauqua/shuttle/republic - growing, decent pay, ********************ty airline to peers
horizon - no growth
expressjet - excellent contract, but no growth
pinnacle - ********************ty contract, ********************ty pft pilots
mesaba - going backwards
psa - not bad, but no new upgrades in months or years
piedmont - they fly dashes

if i had to pick one as a cfi, i would probably take chautauqua yet everyone here bashes it along with mesa and other airlines. there's nothing out there much better. maybe go jets, but not worth it due to our peers. i get tired of seeing airlines bashed here all the time. we're all pilots trying to make a living, and we all want the best pay and quality of life that we can get. stop looking down on each other. every regional kind of sucks right now.

Just thought I'd add my bit...SkyW is not undercutting ASA. We bought them and are doing as necessary to keep ourselves competitive with Chataqua and Mesa.

Also, hourly an ASA pilot may appear to earn more...but by the time you get done adding in all the extras we get, SkyW pilots make more than ASA.

So if you're going to put stuff up, make sure you have a grasp on what you're preaching about.

Go to CHQ...their bases suck, commuting for the 170 is impossible.