Best Masters Degree to get or does it even matter?

[cessnaxdriver]

You might have gotten it free but we paid for it.....


A masters degree would invite scrutiny in an interview to see if your ego was inflated....

Ha. Your a tool... I have a master's in Engineering and an MBA and NEVER scrutinized. Airlines don't care, corporate jobs do

BTW, I paid for mine and for our fellow service people, they paid for it by their service to our country...

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Your reply says all I need to know about you. You don't need a BA/BS, check airman, or instructor work to be a qualified airline guy or gal. Instructing is one (normally civilian only) way to acquire some experience, but not necessarily the best.

It seems you understood part 91 primary instruction. Notice I said check airman and other instructor work... meaning Part 121.

Why do you think military guys get hired with so much less 'total' time than many civilian pilots??? It's quality not quantity. And for the record, I was a civilian instructor prior to the military gig so I can make that statement (no disrespect to civilian instructors - that's a HARD gig). A master's doesn't make you more qualified to fly jets - it makes the 'whole person' concept more complete. Most airlines don't hire a pilot because he has the ability to fly an airplane - that is assumed already. They assume you can fly and aren't a ****************************** (with the exception of you) otherwise you wouldn't have been invited to the interview.

Looks like your ego is getting to you.... We agree that a masters doesn't help in flying jets... what airlines want to know is... do you have social skills and emotional intelligence... again.... not something a masters really teaches....

They are trying to intrepret your motivation, real world thinking, adaptability, personality, diversity of experience - all things which add intangible value to their company. SWA is a model of this - they don't find just the pilot, they find the person that complements the business model. The airline I currently work for does the same - in all but the most extreme cases of lack of flying ability, they will find a great person with average pilot skills and train him or her to be a great pilot. But with you deep understanding of the business world and aviation, I'm sure you already get that....

Again... the term you are looking for is social and emotional intelligence.

And as for trapped in aviation oh Einstein of the world, ever thought of a medical issue???? It has happened to many many people, including 3 friends of mine. Two of those three returned to the cockpit; one will never fly again. That was half of the motivation for me to get my MBA....so I wouldn't go hungry if the worst happened.

That is why I said 'good move'...[the ability to a pragmatic back up in aviation is a great asset.] You seem to have taken it personally, which goes back to your ego.....

 

[Beaver79]

It seems you understood part 91 primary instruction. Notice I said check airman and other instructor work... meaning Part 121.






Looks like your ego is getting to you.... We agree that a masters doesn't help in flying jets... what airlines want to know is... do you have social skills and emotional intelligence... again.... not something a masters really teaches....







Again... the term you are looking for is social and emotional intelligence.



That is why I said 'good move'...[the ability to a pragmatic back up in aviation is a great asset.] You seem to have taken it personally, which goes back to your ego.....

My ego is so overwhelmingly huge...HUGE. Emotional intelligence huh??? Did you get that term from watching Oprah??? I've heard of emotional maturity, emotional intelligence no. And your Master's will help you with what you call "social intelligence", or what most call your social skills. You must use social skills during group - complicated group - projects. But assuming you earned a master's you know that!

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

My ego is so overwhelmingly huge...HUGE.

You seem effected... words twice and caps?

Emotional intelligence huh??? Did you get that term from watching Oprah???

Three question marks twice?


Google it.

I've heard of emotional maturity, emotional intelligence no.

Interesting... I have a BS with a crappy gpa and you have a Masters (with a good gpa I would guess) and you haven't heard of EI. Hey... you learned something tonight...

And your Master's will help you with what you call "social intelligence", or what most call your social skills. You must use social skills during group - complicated group - projects. But assuming you earned a master's you know that!

Most call it social skills. They key point is knowing ones boundries. It has been defined, studied and published as social intelligence.

 

[Raoul Duke]

The Duke Global MBA program is great. It is primarily online but there are sessions held overseas (3weeks each session).

 

[pilotyip]

Fall back value of college degree over rated

The fallback value of a degree is greatly over rated. I have a BS and a Master's in Management, but at age 53, I was making $250/wk loading cargo. After Zantop pretended to go out of went out of business in 1997, I had been a substitue High School Chemistry Teacher up until two weeks before the cargo job came along. However, they do not teach school in the summer so I had to take the cargo job. The value of an unused degree is highly over rated. 53 year old unemployed airline pilots are not eagerly greeted in any industry that I know of, even of having a couple degrees. Of course, I did not apply for many of the "College degree preferred jobs" such as apt manager, telephone direct sales, and plumbing floor manager at Home Depot, etc. If you get a college degree you have to use, the knowledge gained in college to develop a career or the degree is useless. After getting a degree, flying an airplane is not a knowledge expanding experience; it is skill development experience. Anyone care to chime in and share their experiences on entering the non-aviation job market after being out of college 20-30 years?

 

[QOL_is_great:)]

You might have gotten it free but we paid for it.....


A masters degree would invite scrutiny in an interview to see if your ego was inflated....

You're kidding right? Next you'll say that you feed and clothed him as well. Why stop there; why not just say you've paid for every midshipmen, air force and army cadet? Oh wait, can't forget about the Coast Guard Academy and the Merchant Marine Academy either. There is a reason serving in the armed forces is called "selfish service." It is a calling to serve and less then 3% have answered or are currently answering that call. This call allows the other 97% to whine and/or speak freely. It sounds like you're the former.

So if I asked you what have you done to preserve freedom, what would you response be?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

You're kidding right? Next you'll say that you feed and clothed him as well. Why stop there; why not just say you've paid for every midshipmen, air force and army cadet? Oh wait, can't forget about the Coast Guard Academy and the Merchant Marine Academy either. There is a reason serving in the armed forces is called "selfish service." It is a calling to serve and less then 3% have answered or are currently answering that call. This call allows the other 97% to whine and/or speak freely. It sounds like you're the former.

Well.... who does pay for it?

Interesting that Obama suggested a civil force and the idea was treated like HitlerYouth.

Are you saying 3% is not enough? Are you suggesting mandatory or compulsory service like socialist Europe?

Why do most Americans join the Armed services? The enlisted do it for a job. Many enlisted come from economically weak areas of the country. The officers do it for the same, with better benefits. Aviators and Pilots do it because it is a kick as s job.

There was probably a patriotic calling after 9/11... (Pat Tillman). It would be interesting to know how many citizens with military experience participate in elections vs civilians.

In my town we had town and mayor elections. About 8% participated. I know I did. I am sure MIL personnel deployed have a high voter percentage, however, do military personnel both active duty and not, have a higher voter participation than civilians? I've seen no indication that they value their service and freedom anymore than civilian American citizens. A reference would be nice...

So it appears that you are saying your 3% have a greater voice or value, than the 97%. Can you explain how 3%>97%?

So if I asked you what have you done to preserve freedom, what would you response be?

Why? Because if it doesn't appease you then you can feel even better about marginalizing my equal say as a citizen? This of course goes back to 3>97. Your question should be "What have I done to exercise and promote democracy". For starters I can say that I participate in every citizen election. Which is greater than the average and possibly greater than the MIL personnel average.

Don't get me wrong, I respect the military, especially the personnel. In fun, the AF sucks and all AF pilots wish they were Navy pilots. But kidding aside, it seems the MIL personnel are told what, where, when, how, and why. Generally, there is no room for discussion or debate in the military. And that is the way it should be. The Military is not a democracy, nor should it be. (neither are corporations, but that is another thread) However, as seen on this message board, often the MIL guys tell civilians, (especially those civilians judged as "whiners and ungrateful") what, where, when, how and when. There has also been MIL guys telling MIL guys the what, where, when, etc....

The point... military professional life doesn't exactly re-enforce citizens for democracy. Most MIL guys make the transition well, but a few try and run the 3>97 playbook. Most citizens join the US Armed Forces for employment, training, education and professional development. (all great reasons). But since we aren't a military state or there is no congressional declaration of war, should a citizen be chided for not joining? At the end of the day doesn't each citizen have an equal voice? In addition, is our military healthy when the stakeholders question it? Or would our military be better off, if it was given unquestioned carte blanc?

 

[EMBpilot]

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