Best aircraft for $14 million?

[Bullitt]

Hi guys,

I've searched the archives extensively but I wanted to get some new info from the experienced guys. The boss is looking to move up from a Hawker 700. The budget he set is 14 million. Right now we are based in DTO with a 6000 ft rwy and summertime temps of 34C+ and the elev at 640msl. Typical trips are DTO-MMU-DTO and DTO-SMF-DTO with 5 people and bags. He has expressed a strong desire in a new G150. The G150 has some strong points but it looks to be a bit of a runway hog considering where we are based. I like the numbers on the Sovereign, but I think the asking price would be a little outside our budget. Based on the info above, what are some good suggestions on aircraft that would fit our mission profile? Thanks in advance guys!

 

[Ernest T. Bass]

You're not going to touch a Sovereign in this market for $14mm. A 601-3Aer might be a good choice, but I would need to know more about your missoion. If you're serious about buying an airplane, PM me and I can run some numbers for you.

The G-150 is a has been.....I can back this statement up based upon a meeting with Brian Moss. One of the problems is that if the crap hits the fan in Israel (which it's going to do), most parts are going to be unavailable.

 

[deadstick]

Isn't the G200 built over there, too?

Another thing to look at is how long has he been in the Hawker, and the company growth forecast over the next 5 years. You don't want to buy a plane that will work now, but not in 2 years. The Sovereign is a very impressive aircraft with good support.

 

[ultrarunner]

Falcon 50EX!

 

[Hawker800]

Run the numbers for a new Hawker 850XP. It is in the price range you are looking at. It does have better preformance than your 700. Good luck.

 

[learflyer]

Run the numbers for a new Hawker 850XP. It is in the price range you are looking at. It does have better preformance than your 700. Good luck.

ditto!

 

[Bullitt]

Hey guys I really appreciate all the quick replies! Good suggestions, keep em coming

 

[Tgaug6300]

Perhaps the Citation XLS

Elevation=1000ft
Temp= 35c
Weight= 20,200lbs (MTOW)
Flaps=15
Take off field length= 4,650ft

 

[sleepy]

Just sold a Sovereign (one year old with 500 hours for $15.5 Million). Nice aircraft. I looked at a G-150 the other day on the ramp. It has rubber deice boots that are painted silver to look like it has a real hot wing. LOL! Get the Hawker 850XP if that is all you can afford (TKS is better than de-ice boots on a jet). The Sovereign would be better because it has a large baggage compartment (un-pressurized but heated), but you can't afford a used one on that budget.

 

[Bandit60]

How about the new Hawker900xp. This aircraft is the same as the 850xp but with bigger engines and better numbers than the 850xp. I believe it is in the same price range that you are looking at. Better range and will climb straight to 410 at max gross weight with no problem.