Baltia Airlines ?

[bafanguy]

[Not sure what pigeonhole for this so I put it here. Forum search showed nothing]

YIP (or anyone else),

What's the latest on Baltia...another start-up DOA ? These articles are fairly recent:

http://markets.on.nytimes.com/resea...SPRX____NY60820&feedID=600&press_symbol=62915

Manager of Flt Ops:

http://www.jsfirm.com/job/Pilot-Fix...ht+Operations/Ypsilanti-Michigan/jobID_182535

Pilots:

http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=60023586

FAs;

http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=60854785

 

[Draginass]

This thing has been floating around as a "start-up" for literally years. It's either a scam or the most inept management ever.

 

[Dan Roman]

No No, they are the real deal. They have inked a code share deal with California Pacific to provide feed!

 

[NEDude]

This thing has been floating around as a "start-up" for literally years. It's either a scam or the most inept management ever.

Or neither. Since de-regulation, at any given time, there are 4-8 people (or investment groups) that are actively trying to start up an airline. The vast majority of them never get much past the initial proposal stages and only a small percentage make it to certification. It takes almost nothing to think of a name, design a logo and make a website. My guess is this is neither a scam or the most inept management ever, but more likely just like 95% of all other airlines that were proposed since de-regulation that never made it much past the proposal stage.

 

[flyboyike]

This thing has been floating around as a "start-up" for literally years. It's either a scam or the most inept management ever.

I was first contacted by them in late 2005, so almost a decade now.

 

[2000Easyguy]

No No, they are the real deal. They have inked a code share deal with California Pacific to provide feed!

haha, nice!

 

[skypine69]

I believe they have shut down. The Feds were unhappy with the training.

 

[Skippy]

i was contacted in 2008 by some chic who was foreign and had kids in the background crying. 747s to moscow ro something?

 

[ttuite]

I believe they have shut down. The Feds were unhappy with the training.

Ouch that hurts.... I heard Kalitta was doing the training for them.

 

[skypine69]

Yes Kalitta was doing the training, but my understanding is Baltia had to put together a training program and then Kalitta used that program to do the training. The Feds were unhappy with the program that was put together partially because the person at Kalitta who was responsible for turning the training program into reality went to the Feds and said it was so screwed up he was not going to sign anyone off.

Again second hand info, but fairly reliable.

 

[Flyby1206]

Yes Kalitta was doing the training, but my understanding is Baltia had to put together a training program and then Kalitta used that program to do the training. The Feds were unhappy with the program that was put together partially because the person at Kalitta who was responsible for turning the training program into reality went to the Feds and said it was so screwed up he was not going to sign anyone off.

Again second hand info, but fairly reliable.

I'm clueless on how the training certification works, but why can't Baltia pay Kalitta to "develop" a 747 training program (read: cut and paste theirs) and get the FAA to sign off on it?

 

[skypine69]

I suppose they could, i dont really know how these things work either, but it appears they did not and thus the problem. I am guessing they will try again in a few months.

 

[B727FA]

There's no way the FAA would have sent the Baltia training program to Kalitta to teach if they hadn't signed off on it already. That's not the way it works. As for "cutting and pasting" one program for another I'm not sure that would work, either. When RW was getting off the ground they attempted to do basically that from the CQ program and the feds nixed that. That was one reason they were so delayed in their start up.

 

[bafanguy]

I was first contacted by them in late 2005, so almost a decade now.

But...you're still in the "pool" so you've got that goin' for ya.

 

[flyboyike]

But...you're still in the "pool" so you've got that goin' for ya.

Well, now, let's no jump to conclusions. I was never officially notified of being in their pool.