Background Checks?

[Mojo Risen]

Can anyone tell me what the chances are of losing a job offer if I have three class b misdemeanors on my police record. These are all vehical speed related and are over a 10 year period. Any help on how to work around this in the interview would be great.

I did have another friend lose a job offer due to traffic violations. Mine are a litlle more serious.

Thanks

 

[goaliemn]

Can anyone tell me what the chances are of losing a job offer if I have three class b misdemeanors on my police record. These are all vehical speed related and are over a 10 year period. Any help on how to work around this in the interview would be great.

have you checked into applying for an expungement? I had one from afew years ago vehicle related as well. I went down to the courthouse, filed expungement paperwork, and they removed it. It takes afew months, so its not a quick process, but it works well. If they don't consider you a danger to society, and its been afew years, they will usually remove them.

 

[Yank McCobb]

I wouldn't try to "work around" it. Your best bet is to admit your mistakes, take responsibility for what you did and emphasize that you have had a clean record since.

A company finding out later about something you tried to "work around" is a sure fire kiss of death.

Finally, you can do your own background check with the FBI and the NDR and find out exactly what prospective companies will find out.

 

[Mojo Risen]

My state only allows expungement if you only have two on your record. I am currently trying to get one removed from two years ago. The court was to have it removed as long as I didn't have any more related traffic problems.


I do plan to let the interview know about any other problems if I cannot get these other two removed. I just don't know if they would ask in the interview about convictions. What about the they don't ask don't tell?

 

[Guitar Guy]

You definitely should find out what will show on your record with the NDR. If you are applying for an airline job, you will likely be asked to fill out a NDR database search consent form as part of your application paperwork. Not much chance of getting around having to fill out that form.

 

[Yellow Snow]

You don't give the details about how much time between convictions, when was last conviction. You said over a ten year period. If it was ten years with the last conviction being last year unfortunately you are probably in trouble for an airline job. You have to be able to explain in an interview how you had an isolated incident and learned from it. If your convictions are stretched over ten years and are for similar actions then this would probably be read by an employer as a pattern of behavior from which you learned nothing.

If several years have passed since your last conviction just disclose it tell the interviewer that you learned from it and point to having several years with a clean record as proof you learned your lesson. It would help if you were young when this happened and are older (perhaps married) and can display more maturity in your current lifestyle. Again unfortunately if you have a recent (within the last couple of years) convictions you are probably in bad shape.

 

[Mojo Risen]

The convictions are simular over a ten year period, relating to no responding to police instructions or giving info. None are DUI or drug related. Just speed infractions. My understanding is that non should be on your record after 7 years, but I will have to get some local info on that.

Does anyone know what Skywest does for background checks, I would like to apply in the next three months.

 

[mnalpha]

get a lawyer and have him help you out, couple hondo bucks, and you will sleep better. Every one has some skeletons in the closet, if they are small enough to hide them DO IT!

 

[agpilot34]

What do you mean when you say the convictions were "related" to not responding to police instructions or giving info? That in itself might be a problem, if the interviewer sees that you seem to have a problem obeying authority. You need to be a little more forthcoming about exactly what your infractions were. I spent a few years in law enforcement and I can tell you that a charge of not complying with an officer's instructions and a traffic violation are two ENTIRELY different things. Not trying to get on your case or anything, but that's the way I would look at it if I was conducting the interview.

 

[Yellow Snow]

Mojo you're being way too vague. You need to come clean on this. The people here will try to help you if you give all the pertinent info. If you have recent convictions you are going to have to figure out a way to deal with it in an interview. Many of the posters here have probably been there and can help but you won't give enough info for anyone to help. Also there are several people on this board who make hiring decisions and can tell you exactly what to do and what to expect when you are sitting across from an interviewer.

 

[LJ45]

Cool....Watch where the Eskimo go and don't eat that yellow snow!

hehehhe......

 

[Snakum]

have you checked into applying for an expungement?

For purposes of hiding it from a BG investigator, there is NO such thing in the United States of America. You need to run a search here, so I don't have to lay it all out again. But briefly ...

Every speeding ticket and every single arrest you have ever had, regardless of the final disposition, will be looked at by the folks completing the investigation. For purposes of a Federal BG Investigation ... there is no such thing as expungement, hidden convictions as a minor, or any of that other $h!t-house lawyer stuff.

I heard it directly from the mouth of the agent doing mine last Summer.

I know two people who lost jobs because they didn't believe it. Others here also know people who had it happen, including one long-time employee at a Regional who didn't fess up to a federal deal that promised his part would be 'buried' in exchange for cooperation. He was fired immediately. And you will be, too, sooner or later, probably sooner since 9/11.

Your mileage will not vary. Not this time.

Sorry.


Minh

 

[Mojo Risen]

Response to Background Checks

Slow down guys. I am not asking about how to hide my police BG check. What I am asking is what is the best way to provide the information to the interviewer.

I am sure that the application will request any information that may show up on the BG check, and I will be happy to provide it. But what I am asking, and am trying to get help on, is do I take copies of my BG to the interview, along with an explination for the infractions.

I currently have three convictions against me for speeding and failure to pull over for the officer. This was due to never having the police officers vehical in the mirrors. I did not run from the officer, I just did not see them in the mirror. I can atest that I have sold my Porsche. The BG shows that the three convictions, class B, are failure to respond to an officers instructions.

I have learned from them. But can I get past the interview with the BG like it is?

Tx.

 

[PSAChiefPilots]

Honesty

Be honest, Take your chances....We have let people go after getting hired for lying on the app. and as someone said before.....It always comes up.

The interesting thing to me is most (there are a few exceptions) airlines do not start background checks until you have started class, so you generally don't find out until you are in someone's office doing the Carpet dance!

Pay the money and have someone do a Background check for you, It's generally not that expensive, at least that way you know what the Airline is going to get!

Good Luck!

 

[fly4beer]

i have no authority in the aviation world...but i do work for a rather large insurance/annuity company and have a daily relationship with HR regarding reject qualifications.
we do a standard drug test and credit check for all new ee's...but for our MS/Exec. canidates we do a full background check.
AGpilot34 is dead on at least for certain corp. jobs. many employers are immediatly adverse to hiring anyone they feel might have issues with authority OR someone who doesn't like to follow rules (policy procedure protocol).
My advise is strickly corporate related, however i would do a full BG check on yourself so you can see what your prospect sees. if you have to disclose it, and i think you will, how many years apart are these infractions...if they are spread evenly over ten years, that is certainly a HUGE obstical to overcome. summary, don't make excuses. give your side of the story-but MOST IMPORTANTLY DO NOT MAKE EXCUSES FOR YOUR ACTIONS. to an employer, that means you still think you are right or you haven't learned...or you are not sorry. i would have an explaination rehearsed and be SINCERE! hope this helps.

 

[LDavid]

Arrests w/o convictions

This is a different question, but how much would arrests that didn't result in convictions adversely affect your chances of getting hired?

 

[fly4beer]

i have no idea about hiring into an airline. i don't know what they look for. i work for an Insurance/Annuity firm and work with our HR department and hire masters degree grads directly into our executive program. i don't hire directly but i do have some say on what reasons we should NOT hire someone. (and as exciting as all that is...my dream or mid life crisis or whatever is to fly...so if you're flying now...you are way ahead of me or anyone else with clean records...bird in the hand??>>>)

my advise is do a BG check...is it even listed? can you prove the allegations were false or didn't stick? unfortunatly i'll sum it up like this. sometimes we have 4 grads, we have one slot. HR can start looking for reasons to narrow the list. frankly if Johnny was head eagle of the boyscouts (or whatever and i hate when hiring comes to this) and danny wasn't...johnny is one leg up on danny....it can come down to such petty matters. so if johnny has a conviction, or an arrest or questionable history (employer repellant ) then he is easily not an option.

now...if there are 4 applicants and 4 slots etc...you get the picture. as hiring increases, qualifications decrease. it's the same with any industry to some level i believe.

 

[MVSW]

You definitely should find out what will show on your record with the NDR. If you are applying for an airline job, you will likely be asked to fill out a NDR database search consent form as part of your application paperwork. Not much chance of getting around having to fill out that form.

Where can you find out about you BG record??

 

[English]

Here's a company that does them...I think it costs a little over $100 dollars...


www.backgroundresults.com