B777 Captains

[fareview]

Got it... The more hiring the merrier!

Next Tokyo , call you for a beer.

fv

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Got it... The more hiring the merrier!

Next Tokyo , call you for a beer.

fv

Only if I get to buy the first three rounds.......!

 

[macdu]

I am net taxes here in China. The company does give us the tax receipts that they pay on our behalf so you can file either way with the foreign income exclusion or or your taxes paid method.
I zeroed out my fed taxes this year with the exclusion on earnings of 180k.

 

[fareview]

Nice one

 

[WYOMINGPILOT]

The agencies in China are meaningless, they just want their recruitment fee. I have been here 4 years now but on my way out. The money here is great but in the end it is not worth the money with an extremely difficult flying environment, QAR events and the Chinese punishment culture, Mindless meetings on days off without pay, Astronaut style physicals, the worst schedules you can imagine, highly inefficient and huge ground delays at most stops make it brutal on your health and well being. If you want quick cash for one contract maybe 2 if you are lucky with your medicals then Go For it but don't come here with career expectations. If you are in your 30s it is much better, 40s is doable but difficult, 50s is rolling the dice every 6 months to get through a medical. At age 50 plan on doing an extensive EEG test, an echocardiogram, a treadmill stress test, extensive blood and urine tests plus the normal eyes, hearing, BP every 6 months. In the end there will be no job security driving you to look elsewhere.

 

[typhoonpilot]

The agencies in China are meaningless, they just want their recruitment fee. I have been here 4 years now but on my way out. The money here is great but in the end it is not worth the money with an extremely difficult flying environment, QAR events and the Chinese punishment culture, Mindless meetings on days off without pay, Astronaut style physicals, the worst schedules you can imagine, highly inefficient and huge ground delays at most stops make it brutal on your health and well being. If you want quick cash for one contract maybe 2 if you are lucky with your medicals then Go For it but don't come here with career expectations. If you are in your 30s it is much better, 40s is doable but difficult, 50s is rolling the dice every 6 months to get through a medical. At age 50 plan on doing an extensive EEG test, an echocardiogram, a treadmill stress test, extensive blood and urine tests plus the normal eyes, hearing, BP every 6 months. In the end there will be no job security driving you to look elsewhere.

Curious which airline you are/were at?

PM if you want, I'll be in Shenzhen on a personal visit from the 20th.


Typhoonpilot

 

[macdu]

I can't disagree with WYOMINGPILOT one iota. Things have changed since I first came in 2009 and not for the better. So far my personal situation here remains stable but that can change every six months as stated. But let's be honest. Even back in the U.S. we have a jeopardy event every six months, and with the easy medicals of the past on the way out from what I read.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

The agencies in China are meaningless, they just want their recruitment fee. I have been here 4 years now but on my way out. The money here is great but in the end it is not worth the money with an extremely difficult flying environment, QAR events and the Chinese punishment culture, Mindless meetings on days off without pay, Astronaut style physicals, the worst schedules you can imagine, highly inefficient and huge ground delays at most stops make it brutal on your health and well being. If you want quick cash for one contract maybe 2 if you are lucky with your medicals then Go For it but don't come here with career expectations. If you are in your 30s it is much better, 40s is doable but difficult, 50s is rolling the dice every 6 months to get through a medical. At age 50 plan on doing an extensive EEG test, an echocardiogram, a treadmill stress test, extensive blood and urine tests plus the normal eyes, hearing, BP every 6 months. In the end there will be no job security driving you to look elsewhere.

Just curious; what is a QAR event? Also-- just curious what meetings on unpaid days off are all about. Is it to discuss whatever a QAR event is?

 

[typhoonpilot]

QAR = Quick Access Recorder

It records the aircraft parameters during the course of a flight. Each airline can configure ways to read it that generate trigger events, i.e. Greater than 250 KIAS below 10,000 feet, gear not down by 1500 feet AAL, speed greater than Vref + 20 below 1000 feet AAL.

Wyoming can probably explain better how the Chinese airlines will "fine" pilots when certain trigger events are recorded.


TP

 

[macdu]

It's Chinese FOQA.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

It's Chinese FOQA.

Sounds like the difference is that the Chinese use it as a tool to short you $$. I think I'm beginning to get a little more insight as to why Asiana crash happened (I know it's Korean vs Chinese..but I suspect similar "punishment culture")

 

[macdu]

Sounds like the difference is that the Chinese use it as a tool to short you $$. I think I'm beginning to get a little more insight as to why Asiana crash happened (I know it's Korean vs Chinese..but I suspect similar "punishment culture")

Well it's really just cultural. The Chinese teach that learning comes from punishment. You break one of their rules regardless of the reason...Bam! We on the other hand ask why, what was the reason. Was there a purpose to your action? Ok, don't do it again.
Asiana. Again a big operating environment difference. I can only speak of China but here it is virtually unheard of to fly a "visual approach". If you say to the controller I have the airport and the runway in sight he will be confused as to why you said that. In the U.S. That's code for I want a visual approach. Now you couple that with the GS out of service as was the case in SFO and disaster is waiting to happen for the Asians. Sad but true.
It's fun to watch their heads spin when you tell them how in ORD you might do a side step to another runway or be asked to S-turn on final for spacing or after t/o give me a left 270. Lol

 

[sniper]

There is an additional compensation of an extra $2,000/ month paid in a yearly basis, so that is $13,000/ month @80 hours for a rate of $162.5/hour. If you take DAL highest rate @255/ hour and take away state and federal taxes, and your hourly rate will be what. Around $175 or so? And that is after you reach the captains position with over 12 years invested in the company.

This salary package will be net with taxes paid in the domicile country at a higher rate than in the US so you will be filing under the double taxation condition, and walking through the door on day one, not after what? 18 years to the left seat of a T7 at DAL? when you see it that way! it is a pretty competitive salary package.

Disclaimer...., before the idiosy starts! I'm NOT in any way saying that this is an alternative to a career at ANY major in the US, if you are young enough to start at a legacy and are lucky enough to get some seniority under your belt, that is the most secure and profitable way to go. But I can also see how some guys would be interested in jumping to the opportunity of some of these reverse roster contracts that are popping up here and there...!

Expats pay US taxes for earnings above 97.5 k per year per IRS
Do your figures again now

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Expats pay US taxes for earnings above 97.5 k per year per IRS
Do your figures again now

104k actually...! Been doing it for a decade sniper, I suggest that you actually inform yourself as to what is the difference between tax exemption (how you would file if you didn't have a tax liability at the host nation) and how will the non-double taxation work if the company paid your taxes! That way you won't sound as uninformed as you did!