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B737 design flaw, pilot error induced by B737 design

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At WN we've had several crews climb with the take-off warning horn sounding. Didn't figure it out till the FA's called and told them the "gear" was down.

It's happened to every 737 operator out there. Why? Cause it's a stupid system. Who puts a dual use horn in an airplane? I mean really. We've got a box that can tell us to pull up. A box can tell us to go around. A box can tell us if we're going to hit somebody. Surely we can have a box tell us:

"hey dumbass turn the packs back on" or
"hey dumbass put the flaps out" or
"hey dumbass release the brakes before taking off"

Gup

There are a few other panels on the 737 that get confusing even for the seasoned 737 pilot.

If would have been great for an airplane with a Glass cockpit to have the option for messages on those Glass displays like every other glass airplane, but for the NG that is not the case. Which airline can we blame for that? lol

It is more about training costs and selling airplanes than safety obviously.
 
I understand SWA is switching the NG glass to tapes and using the original Boeing design with the full PFD/MFD terminology as opposed to the bastardized inboard display unit/outboard display unit crap. End of the round dial.

Its funny how SWA screwed up the airplane and is the first to change it back when they need the full functionality.

Its another SWA conspiracy to defeat the competition! Conspiracy I say!
 
It's been 11 months since your last recurrent...you HAVE been a diligent pilot...you haven't F*cked it up yet...You haven't even heard the fricken horn since you were a new-hire because you have never forgot to turn the packs back on and you have never forgot to release the parking brake in 15 years. You are a super all star pilot at all of your recurrents...unfortunately your training department has not chosen to include this one scenario out of hundreds to review for you during your once a year event.

Now you're busier than shi* on one of those crazy departures out of EWR on a hot summer night with thunderstorms all around. You're light in a 700 so you're screaming up at 6000/fpm...

Now for the first time in 15 years you hear a sound that you have not heard in forever as you rocket past 10,000.

It is an intermitent horn! Now how did that go again...if it's an intermitent horn then put the gear down...or was it a steady horn...

You've got 15 seconds to act because in just a little bit you're gonna give half the pax a heart attack when they see the rubber jungle. Also...you better be careful you don't snap the neck of your C flight attendant as you send the airplane into negative-g's as you push it over trying to stop the asscent.

This is ridicules...the only people that could even possibly argue this is a safe system are instructors that have been in the school house too long that seem to think that when crap happens on the line it happens in neat little packages just like training...and engineers because when they go and talk to "PILOTS" they invariably go and talk to those in the school houses of the various airlines.

This is ridicules...there should be a DIFFERENT horn...there should be a voice...AND there should be a light. This is a no brainer-this airplane should never have been certified in this way in the first place.

I have a suggestion for Boeing too save them money so they don't need to do too much additional installation...disable the flight attendant call bell and use the bell as the distinct cabin altitude warning...We realy don't need that thing anyway.

Later
 
New delivery Next Gens are coming with warning lights installed on the panel. They are not yet activated, but it's in the works.
 

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