Awful quiet

[pilotyip]

The reliablity of a/c can also be "determined" by the pilots who fly them. ahem....those little nuisance lights that we all know how to fix on our own, but suddenly require write ups....ahem...

Why do pilots do that? or fly at FL290, when flight planned for FL370, not fly LRC?

 

[BentOver]

Why do pilots do that? or fly at FL290, when flight planned for FL370, not fly LRC?

Well, I'll try to explain....If an "upper yaw damp" EICAS msg. pops up, there is a 99% chance that by doing the usual circuit breaker reboot, it wil correct itself..When management is being a bunch of dicks it automatically becomes a maintenance function. This a write-up. Simple laws of being dickheads vs. not being dickheads towards the employee group.

 

[pilotyip]

Well, I'll try to explain....If an "upper yaw damp" EICAS msg. pops up, there is a 99% chance that by doing the usual circuit breaker reboot, it wil correct itself..When management is being a bunch of dicks it automatically becomes a maintenance function. This a write-up. Simple laws of being dickheads vs. not being dickheads towards the employee group.

and pilots are not being dick heads for doing this? Is this a contest to see who can be the biggest dick?

 

[NJAowner]

and when the battle of d!cks gets intense owners get affected, and then, if it happens often, leave. So who wins that battle ...CA, FO, FLEX.

 

[pilotyip]

and when the battle of d!cks gets intense owners get affected, and then, if it happens often, leave. So who wins that battle ...CA, FO, FLEX.

Hey stop that! This is FI it does not deal in reality. You are only an owner, what would you know about owning or buying fractional shares? This is FI it deals in how unfair management is to pilots.

 

[BentOver]

Well, the way I see it...

NOT writing up an a/c is technically illegal. Therefore any illegalities that may have occurred is aiding the owners get to where they want to go.

Writing up an a/c is technically following the rules.

BTW you'll find both sides of the equation at all of the above mentioned companies.... And then when you turn towards airlines you'll find some of the same. Extra slow taxies, more mechanical write-ups....

Do you not know that exit lights and missing or worn out placards/stickers are non-deferrable....

 

[KiddDynomite]

As for flying in LRC, it's complete crap! Who the hell came up with it? MCT in the 680 and you land 15 minutes ahead and usually with the same fuel! As for being dickheads, if it's broke wirte it up. When you pick up a plane and there's a bunch of crap broke that other crews neglected that is more of an inconvenience. These things start having multiple write-ups and it puts them down longer. Just write the damn things up. Part of our job is to make sure they are airworthy and if they are not do your job! This idea to complete the "mission" at all costs is nonsense. Things break and that's it. We fly airplanes not magic carpets. As for the owners going to the competition, be my guest I can gaurantee you that their dispatch reliability is high simply because they DON'T write stuff up. If you want to ride around in a broken piece of crap have at it Mr. Owner!!

 

[wacoflyr]

and when the battle of d!cks gets intense owners get affected, and then, if it happens often, leave. So who wins that battle ...CA, FO, FLEX.

Avantair....

 

[Praetorian]

Avantair....

Yea and if Mercedes disappoints it's customers Kia will surely benefit.

 

[brokeflyer]

Yea and if Mercedes disappoints it's customers Kia will surely benefit.

hahaha yeah...it's looked at like this....you get what you pay for.

 

[gunfyter]

Undocumented Procedure

CBs

I don't make lights go out.

We are not allowed to pull circuit breakers ...

 

[ozpilot]

CBs

I don't make lights go out.

We are not allowed to pull circuit breakers ...

Unless directed by a maintenance procedure, a checklist or the AFM ..

 

[gunfyter]

Unless directed by a maintenance procedure, a checklist or the AFM ..

Correct

 

[wacoflyr]

Yea and if Mercedes disappoints it's customers Kia will surely benefit.

Or Lexus.

 

[say again]

and when the battle of d!cks gets intense owners get affected, and then, if it happens often, leave. So who wins that battle ...CA, FO, FLEX.

Exactly..all are losers! Unfortunately, this "tactic" has been around for decades.