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Times are certainly changing!

AWAC used to proud of a lot of things; 4 years ago you had to have been at another regional to have stood any chance of getting an interview. Not like now where we'll take guys with less than a 1000TT. The captains I fly with at the moment were at another regional for at least a year before spending around 3 years in the right seat here. They know their sh!t and are a pleasure to fly with. Unfortunately they're the pilots we're losing to Airtran, Jetblue and Southwest. It's great for them but we're losing that experience base at a time when we're lowering our minmums and taking guys who think it's a right to get a job flying a SJ.

The whole RAA PFT was a disaster and most of the pilot group was p!ssed off about the whole thing. It's done with now, so at least we don't have to contend with 300 hour FO's.

With the way the industry is right now, pride has less of a place than it used but I'm still proud to be an AWAC pilot. We're just going through a huge transition, moving from Yonited to Useless, so a certain amount of growing pains are inevitable.

Commuting to reserve should be the definition of hell in the dictionary. I did it at ACA and hated every minute. I was only on reserve here for a month but it was 5 on 2/3 off if I remember right. I'm pretty sure you'll be in ORF as a new hire right now and commuting there is probably going to be a 2-legger. Not good!

ORF is going to be an MX base so we're expecting early shows, late finishes, out and backs and day-trips. That means commuting is going to be an even bigger nightmare. On the plus side if you're single and don't mind moving ORF sounds like it'll turn into the AWAC singles club.

BTW the pif isn't out but log onto spikemail, go to bidding and it shows "future postion" at the top of the page.
 
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I'm glad to see that nobody has bad things to say about the company, just the new bases and schedules. If anyone cares to share, what is the reserve looking like for new hires? Is it comutable? What are the junior lines like after reserve? or what do you think the lines will be like after things settle down(4on,3off or something)? Thanks
 
Kenny said:
Commuting to reserve should be the definition of hell in the dictionary. I did it at ACA and hated every minute. I was only on reserve here for a month but it was 5 on 2/3 off if I remember right.
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You hopefully this won't last more than a month or two for you. They have always had a history of going nuts with the reserve positions as they transition to new bases in the past (ATL & IAD). The same thing showed up with PHL, ORF, and DCA.

Also...if you are in IAD, even though your future position is DCA Reserve....you do not know when you will be going there. Effective dates are going to be spaced out over the period of 4-5 months for that particular base. With any luck you will find yourself as a IAD lineholder for a few more months.

Kenny said:
I'm pretty sure you'll be in ORF as a new hire right now and commuting there is probably going to be a 2-legger. Not good!

Any base is possible. Newhires are still getting PHL reserve....many of the F/O's I've talked to will do anything to stay off reserve so even though some of the top DCA reserve holders may be at 18 months sen the bottom may still consist of newhires. If you are looking to get off reserve anytime soon ORF is going to be your base.

You can adjust your bid so you are automatically transferred to the first base you can hold a line if that is your wish, and your "line holder" status cannot be taken away from you unless there is a displacement. "Reserve" and "Line Holder" are concidered two seperate positions.

Piker
 
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I'm looking at AWAC for the PHL base, wondering how long the reserve callout is. I live 90 minutes away with no traffic. Is PHL a long time reserve base or are pilots holding lines there pretty quickly. Thanks..
 
Call out time is currently two hours.

The union is currently pursuing a four hour call out due to two out of three of our new bases being in PHL & DCA (high traffic/high cost of living within a two hour area).

I would assume they are high balling to possibly meet in the middle with a three hour call out, I wouldn't hold your breathe on that, but we are getting pretty da.mn short on some of our staffing levels so we'll see.

I wouldn't count on getting off reserve very quickly in PHL. If you did get sick of it though you would have the advantage of living in a hub with on-line access to Norfolk (our second largest base) where you would probably be able to hold a line the soonest. Commuter policy gives you two flights to get there on any airline.

Piker
 
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Sounds like everyone is a little unsure of what the status is of the bases right now?? I guess that's expected.. I'm interested in coming over to AWAC from the regional I'm at right now. I never believed in doing the "regional hop" but there are some really bad company's out there to work for and unfortunately I'm stuck at one. I hope to get DCA, but if I don't I'll just commute and bid in eventually I'm sure. Living in Domicile and being on Reserve isn't too shabby.
What's the best way to apply?? I went to the website and emailed them my cover letter and resume a week ago. Still no call back. Any info would be appreciated! Thanx
 
All I can say is welcome to our disfunctional family. I must admit PHL and DCA have not been my favorite places to fly out of but we made the best of it. PHL is a mess but DCA is not so bad except that living out there would put an FO in the poorhouse (not that we already are.)

Enjoy! :)
 
FlyinPiker said:
Call out time is currently two hours.

The union is currently pursuing a four hour call out due to two out of three of our new bases being in PHL & DCA (high traffic/high cost of living within a two hour area).

I would assume they are high balling to possibly meet in the middle with a three hour call out, I wouldn't hold your breathe on that, but we are getting pretty da.mn short on some of our staffing levels so we'll see.

I wouldn't count on getting off reserve very quickly in PHL. If you did get sick of it though you would have the advantage of living in a hub with on-line access to Norfolk (our second largest base) where you would probably be able to hold a line the soonest. Commuter policy gives you two flights to get there on any airline.

Piker
3 hour call out for reserve would be great. is this wishful rumoring or is this a near future possibility? Sounds like PHL is quite a mess of a base...
 
Question for anyone that can answer me. I am also working for a part 121 crj airline, and looking to do the "hop" Is it true that if they do hire me or anyone w/ crj time they have an advance training program in about half the time..or normal training?
 
As you're already current and qualified you wouldn't have to do all the sims that a un-qualified new hire would have to.

I think the Indy guys that came over had to do 4 hours but don't quote me on that.
 
illeagle said:
3 hour call out for reserve would be great. is this wishful rumoring or is this a near future possibility? ...

Neither. The union told us they were going to the company and proposing a 4 hour call out. I have no further info other than that. They are not obligated to change it. All because we think it would be more reasonable means nothing to them. They are very dollars and cents minded these days.

Count on our current two hour call out if that plays a part in coming here.
 

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