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AWAC flying for united again

cargojunkie

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Anybody know how many of the 146 united wants awac to fly?? and for how long??
 

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Word is 4 or 5 flown past April 2006. Who knows what will happen.
 

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UAL gives AWAC the boot and then is in the process of forming a new agreement? I don't get it.
 

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United seems to be having trouble solving the Aspen flying past April 2006.
 

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AWAC should raise their rates for the 146.
 

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I've also heard the response was "thanks but we'll fly 10 or none". No proof of that but it did make me chuckle.
 

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If AWAC stays a UAX carrier then the UA passes need to be returned to the remaining CS employees.
 

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I heard that United wanted to purchase the BAe146's from AWI. Of course, I don't think they are in a position to do so considering there are pilots taking major pay cuts.

I also was under the impression the G0jets was going to to pick up the ASE routes and this is why they went with the Larger engines.

Looking at UAL schedule over the next 2 months the BAe146 is being phased out of ASE and Mesa is picking up the routes with a Dash 8. I'm sure this will hurt UAL's business out of ASE, because the BAe146 were usually pretty full with families and their Ski equipment.

I wish all of the AWI guys the best of luck!
 

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What does bigger engines have to do with a single engine departure procedure and the maneuvering of a 700 on one engine?

Seriously, does a bigger allow a 700 to fly slower on one engine? Isn't that what the benefit of the 146 is?

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Beechnut said:
What does bigger engines have to do with a single engine departure procedure and the maneuvering of a 700 on one engine?

Seriously, does a bigger allow a 700 to fly slower on one engine? Isn't that what the benefit of the 146 is?

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I can't answer your question completely. This is what I was told by an ex AWI pilot. G0jets went with the CRJ9's engines of the CRJ7 so they could pick up the ASE route and other High Altitude airport flying. Maybe they produce a lot more power. I really don't know.

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SkyWest is getting the 900 engines on the rest of the 700 orders and starting to retrofit previous 700's with the new 900 engine......hmm........makes you wonder......

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HockleyPilot said:
SkyWest is getting the 900 engines on the rest of the 700 orders and starting to retrofit previous 700's with the new 900 engine......hmm........makes you wonder......
I was under the impression that all 700s were being retrofitted with 900 engines due to defects found on the 700 model. I could be wrong, though.
 

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sweptback said:
I was under the impression that all 700s were being retrofitted with 900 engines due to defects found on the 700 model. I could be wrong, though.
That's what I heard too. The -900 engines are de-rated to -700 levels
 

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Oops! I was beat to the punch

The CF34-8C1 engine is no longer going to be supported. This is the reason for the change. While it is true that all future 700s are going to have the 900 engine (sorry - can't remember the model number), it is derated to the same thrust output as the CF34-8C1. There are no performance improvement benefits, so any rumors that say otherwise can be discounted.
 
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Why would higher thrust engines make a difference on circling approach?
For you nubbies that have not flown into ASE, do you really think a CL700 can circle on one engine 30deg bank at no more than 130kts, and do a balked. :rolleyes:
 

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I heard they are retrofitting them with mountain deflectors.
 

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propjockey said:
While it is true that all future 700s are going to have the 900 engine (sorry - can't remember the model number), it is derated to the same thrust output as the CF34-8C1. There are no performance improvement benefits, so any rumors that say otherwise can be discounted.

{OPPS Sorry, In my JIMMY BEAM state I failed to mention that, so, in turn it would have NO affect on performance.}

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labbats said:
I heard they are retrofitting them with mountain deflectors.
Thats f'en hilarious.

RUMOR ALERT: Had a maintenance guy tell me yesterday that UAL bit on the 10 146s as of 2 days ago. No other details though.
 

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propjockey said:
The CF34-8C1 engine is no longer going to be supported. This is the reason for the change. While it is true that all future 700s are going to have the 900 engine (sorry - can't remember the model number), it is derated to the same thrust output as the CF34-8C1. There are no performance improvement benefits, so any rumors that say otherwise can be discounted.
Good Info. Thanks
 
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