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PseudoName
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WW24dude
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I'm surprised. I thought Avjet was a pretty well respected company in SOCAL. It seems some of you are putting them on the same 'plane' as Pacific Jet. Anybody have anything constructive to say? If I'm intested in a Westwind job where can I send my resume.
Thanks in advance to some...and per Flightinfo.com SOP, no thanks to you usual suspects...you know who you are...
P.S.
I heard 94th Aero was a gay bar...
Thanks in advance to some...and per Flightinfo.com SOP, no thanks to you usual suspects...you know who you are...
P.S.
I heard 94th Aero was a gay bar...
PseudoName
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I don't think anyone here puts AvJet in the same classification as PJ. They are a decent operator....you just have to watch your back and keep track of expenses owed to you.
94th......a gay bar?? Yeah, it's real gay....all those pilots drinking out by the fire pit and evaluating the jets land.
94th......a gay bar?? Yeah, it's real gay....all those pilots drinking out by the fire pit and evaluating the jets land.
I agree, AVJet is one of the better companies out there... sorry if I implied otherwise. Honestly, theres nothing worse than PJ. Problems in your expenses are pretty common everywhere you go.
94th Aero is actually a pretty good restaurant, at least for VNY... I believe they have one in a few airports as well, I went to the one @ W.Palm Beach while I was there @ FSI.
94th Aero is actually a pretty good restaurant, at least for VNY... I believe they have one in a few airports as well, I went to the one @ W.Palm Beach while I was there @ FSI.
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Avjet is a good place to work, it is a 135 operation, so certain things come with flying charter that you just have to deal with.
While I was employed there (I left to pursue a part 91 job) I never heard of anybody not getting paid their expenses. Sometimes it took a while (couple weeks maybe) but I never had any of my expense reports "lost."
The people were great to work with, and I'm gonna miss flying with a lot of them. I would say if you are looking for a flying job in Socal and don't mind the 135 lifestyle, by all means apply and try to come aboard. The flying is good - great clientele, lots of hours available. The equipment is great and if you get hired onto the Westwind, the chances are that in 2 years you will be flying a late model Gulfstream Product. I'm speaking from experience.
There are a lot of "sleazy" 134 1/2 operators out there and Avjet isn't one of them. Best of luck.........
While I was employed there (I left to pursue a part 91 job) I never heard of anybody not getting paid their expenses. Sometimes it took a while (couple weeks maybe) but I never had any of my expense reports "lost."
The people were great to work with, and I'm gonna miss flying with a lot of them. I would say if you are looking for a flying job in Socal and don't mind the 135 lifestyle, by all means apply and try to come aboard. The flying is good - great clientele, lots of hours available. The equipment is great and if you get hired onto the Westwind, the chances are that in 2 years you will be flying a late model Gulfstream Product. I'm speaking from experience.
There are a lot of "sleazy" 134 1/2 operators out there and Avjet isn't one of them. Best of luck.........
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A Gathering of Eagles
Psudo,
Yes, an even better idea than the first. Maybe we should all show up with an differeng screen name than our own on a name tag. You know, if you like "English's" posts, you show up as English (gender not considered). If you like "Ace-of-the-Base", you show up in that drag.
I would laff my tail feathers off though ... I'll bet every one shows up as "Psyci ...", what's that kid's name?
TransMach
Psudo,
Yes, an even better idea than the first. Maybe we should all show up with an differeng screen name than our own on a name tag. You know, if you like "English's" posts, you show up as English (gender not considered). If you like "Ace-of-the-Base", you show up in that drag.
I would laff my tail feathers off though ... I'll bet every one shows up as "Psyci ...", what's that kid's name?
TransMach
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I just found this on the website:
http://www.avjet.com/employpilots.htm
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Current Positions - Pilots[/font]
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http://www.avjet.com/employpilots.htm
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Current Positions - Pilots[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]
- [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Hawker 800XP, Westwind and Gulfstream IV captains[/size][/font]Avjet Corporation has immediate openings for Hawker 800 XP, Westwind and Gulfstream IV part 135 captains based at Burbank, CA.
4000 Hrs total time minimum. 200 hours in type. 3000 multi, 2000 multi PIC.
Preference given to HS-125 type rating, current part 135 Hawker qualification.
Excellent salary and benefits package
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Please submit resume via Microsoft Word email attachment to:[/size][/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1] [email protected] or fax to: 818-559-1512.
Put your first and last names in the file name. [/size][/font]
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Sheep,
Well, first I didn't make the above post. I sent Mark (webmaster) a note. I can edit it, but I sure didn't post it. In fact, each time I make a post the "number of posts" doesn't increase. And, if anyone cares, EVERY time I post something I sign it "TransMach" ... which this guy didn't.
He's probably just as mistyfied as I am.
Maybe HIS cheepskate boss can buy him a copy.
The Real TransMach
P.S. -- I've never set foot on a G-II or a Hawker
Sheep,
Well, first I didn't make the above post. I sent Mark (webmaster) a note. I can edit it, but I sure didn't post it. In fact, each time I make a post the "number of posts" doesn't increase. And, if anyone cares, EVERY time I post something I sign it "TransMach" ... which this guy didn't.
He's probably just as mistyfied as I am.
Maybe HIS cheepskate boss can buy him a copy.
The Real TransMach
P.S. -- I've never set foot on a G-II or a Hawker
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To get back to the Avjet Corporation subject...
To those in the know, why is it then (in your opinions) that the pilots are leaving in unusually high numbers. Are the pay-rates out of wack? What are the Westwind entry rates? Left seat? Right seat? If they are indeed "national average" (as someone mentioned), that's nice if you live in your "average" north american city, but living in the LA area is prohibitive at those rates. And once on the property, where do the payscales go from there? Are the pay raises based on a defined number of months/years with the company? Does anybody know about their 401K package? Do they match you up to the limit? Any chance to commute?
From a previous post, it sounds as though the fellow pilots and flight attendents are fun/good to fly with...how about the "management" side of the house? Professional and responsive to those doing the work? Is the "chain-of-command" functioning over there? What are they doing to retain these pilots? These are questions I hope can be answered before pursuing a job over there. My concern comes from the fact that I have unfortunately experienced organizations that have lost a good number of "vital/valuable pilots" due to a company losing perspective and fixating on increasing their bottom-line to the max extent possible. All this bean-counting ended up leaving the pilots feeling over-worked and "nickle-and-dimed" to death. These pilots attempted to ask for well-deserved raises, with no response from middle-management. The company made great money in the short term only to be burned shortly thereafter by pilots bailing-out of a dysfunctional organization. I am simply trying to figure out why folks are leaving before I decide whether or not to drop them a resume. Any one care to comment?
Thanks in advance.
To those in the know, why is it then (in your opinions) that the pilots are leaving in unusually high numbers. Are the pay-rates out of wack? What are the Westwind entry rates? Left seat? Right seat? If they are indeed "national average" (as someone mentioned), that's nice if you live in your "average" north american city, but living in the LA area is prohibitive at those rates. And once on the property, where do the payscales go from there? Are the pay raises based on a defined number of months/years with the company? Does anybody know about their 401K package? Do they match you up to the limit? Any chance to commute?
From a previous post, it sounds as though the fellow pilots and flight attendents are fun/good to fly with...how about the "management" side of the house? Professional and responsive to those doing the work? Is the "chain-of-command" functioning over there? What are they doing to retain these pilots? These are questions I hope can be answered before pursuing a job over there. My concern comes from the fact that I have unfortunately experienced organizations that have lost a good number of "vital/valuable pilots" due to a company losing perspective and fixating on increasing their bottom-line to the max extent possible. All this bean-counting ended up leaving the pilots feeling over-worked and "nickle-and-dimed" to death. These pilots attempted to ask for well-deserved raises, with no response from middle-management. The company made great money in the short term only to be burned shortly thereafter by pilots bailing-out of a dysfunctional organization. I am simply trying to figure out why folks are leaving before I decide whether or not to drop them a resume. Any one care to comment?
Thanks in advance.
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Fred Garvin
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Thanks for the response 'English'.
Can you be more specific on the upward movement? From what aircraft are these pilots moving up from and to what aircraft are they going to? How long did they work at the company before they were given the opportunity to move into something better?
Thanks again,
Fred
Can you be more specific on the upward movement? From what aircraft are these pilots moving up from and to what aircraft are they going to? How long did they work at the company before they were given the opportunity to move into something better?
Thanks again,
Fred
Makesheepnervus
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To answer Mr. Garvin's questions;
The openings at Avjet are due to a combination of some pilots leaving and some additional aircraft joining the fleet which has resulted in some upward movement within the company.
The pay is on a par with national and local averages and can be described as "Competitive". Pay raises are annual, taking effect on the first of the year, and again are "Competitive".
Management wise things are pretty straight forward, and Pilots are not overworked most of the time, although I sure everyone has had a busy month or two here and there followed by some quiet months as well. It is just the nature of the business. I really wouldn't describe management as "a bunch of bean counters", although some people find the expense reports to be a pain in the butt, they really are not any worse than other operations. If you write something up on an aircraft it gets fixed and there is no pressure to fly a trip with a broken aircraft or operate in an unsafe enviroment. It really is pretty straight forward; you show up on time, do your job, follow procedure, finish the trip, close the airplane, go home and wait for the phone to ring for the next trip. If you are not flying, they don't want to see you around the office.
One last thing; while they are open to new ideas, they don't want a know it all who is constantly telling management how things should be run.
The openings at Avjet are due to a combination of some pilots leaving and some additional aircraft joining the fleet which has resulted in some upward movement within the company.
The pay is on a par with national and local averages and can be described as "Competitive". Pay raises are annual, taking effect on the first of the year, and again are "Competitive".
Management wise things are pretty straight forward, and Pilots are not overworked most of the time, although I sure everyone has had a busy month or two here and there followed by some quiet months as well. It is just the nature of the business. I really wouldn't describe management as "a bunch of bean counters", although some people find the expense reports to be a pain in the butt, they really are not any worse than other operations. If you write something up on an aircraft it gets fixed and there is no pressure to fly a trip with a broken aircraft or operate in an unsafe enviroment. It really is pretty straight forward; you show up on time, do your job, follow procedure, finish the trip, close the airplane, go home and wait for the phone to ring for the next trip. If you are not flying, they don't want to see you around the office.
One last thing; while they are open to new ideas, they don't want a know it all who is constantly telling management how things should be run.
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