AVJET Westwinds?

[Daveman]

From the looks of their site they fly some iron. Much cleaner 1124A then I drove.

 

[DruDown]

Besides Westwind pilots, I hear they are also looking for Hawker and Gulfstream pilots too. They recently had 5 G-IV pilots resign, leaving high paid positions...140-150K. If this doesn't tell you about the operations at AvJet, well......you deserve what you get.

Get your facts straight, dude. The guys who left weren't all leaving 140-150k jobs. Most left for much better part 91 jobs - who could blame them. Yes, AvJet is looking for Gulfstream, Hawker and Westwind guys, mostly due to growth.

As far as your buddies go, and owed expenses, I don't know what to tell you, but I've never heard of that at AvJet, or heard of AvJet talking bad about guys who've left. I don't who you're talking about, and I don't want to make assumptions, but I've learned in this business, usually it's not the operator, but rather the pilot. Every now and then, we all have to look into the mirror.

Dru

 

[PseudoName]

Get your facts straight, dude. The guys who left weren't all leaving 140-150k jobs.

You are right, I need to get my facts straight. Their pay was actually 155K per year....or at least that's what AvJet is providing to other operators through PIRA.

...but I've learned in this business, usually it's not the operator, but rather the pilot. Every now and then, we all have to look into the mirror.

How true....and I would believe that is the case at AvJet if it were only one pilot. Multiple pilots have left recently.....and not for other jobs.....just to get out of a big mess!

I am sure those guys will be replaced quickly. Heard today that Pacific Jet let 10 pilots out on the street. I guess it has something to do with their Gulfstream fleet being parked due to non-compliance with TAWS.

 

[English]

My source at Toyota told me that two AvJet guys were part of the group of 4 just hired into the GIV. That explains where two of recently departed AvJet pilots went.

Are you serious about Pacific Jet? I've been getting alot of calls from their pilots lately...that would explain it.

 

[PseudoName]

Regarding PJ....heard that TP charged the owners for TAWS a year ago and spent it, but not on TAWS. The aircraft owners are being told that TAWS is installed but an "emergency service letter" was issued for those particular aircraft rendering them unairworthy for at least several weeks while the "service letter" is complied with.

Whatever it is worth, there is no "emergency service letter" for any TAWS/EGPWS system.

 

[GV-Ace]

Pj

Regarding PJ....heard that TP charged the owners for TAWS a year ago and spent it, but not on TAWS. The aircraft owners are being told that TAWS is installed but an "emergency service letter" was issued for those particular aircraft rendering them unairworthy for at least several weeks while the "service letter" is complied with.

Whatever it is worth, there is no "emergency service letter" for any TAWS/EGPWS system.

Is that you, RV?

 

[PseudoName]

No...sorry.

 

[psysicx]

Isn't it illigal for companies to say anything bad about you?I thought they could only tell you if they would rehire you or not.That sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

 

[pa56pa]

Regarding PJ....heard that TP charged the owners for TAWS a year ago and spent it, but not on TAWS. The aircraft owners are being told that TAWS is installed but an "emergency service letter" was issued for those particular aircraft rendering them unairworthy for at least several weeks while the "service letter" is complied with.

Whatever it is worth, there is no "emergency service letter" for any TAWS/EGPWS system.

Pseudo, English... yep, I got the call about that too... amazing how us ex PJ pilots get the info directly from their pilots and ex-pilots... word goes out FAST! These days though, I just laugh at this whole situation cuz I saw it coming at least a year ago.. it wasn't the first time they spent the $$ on other things... . What do they call that? KARMA??

 

[PseudoName]

Heard tonight from my "source" that a total of 15 pilots are out on the street....and at least one owner has taken his airplane down to Presidential Aviation in LGB. I guess Presidential is taking some on the PJ pilots too.

 

[pa56pa]

Heard tonight from my "source" that a total of 15 pilots are out on the street....and at least one owner has taken his airplane down to Presidential Aviation in LGB. I guess Presidential is taking some on the PJ pilots too.

Presidential out of LGB started out last year from PJ managed airplanes ... according to my buddies that work there, they now love their jobs and schedules. Night and day from PJ. I'm not surprised that other aircraft owners and pilots will now consider Presidential. They've actually been around --originally from FL. I wish them all luck and success in that they provide the charter public the safety and honesty which they deserve, and that the pilots are valued and treated humanely and with respect.

I don't feel sorry for PJ whatsoever.. it's just a matter of time before they close shop and operate under a "new" name... following the likes of Xtra Jet.

 

[English]

I'm thinking their planes must not be RVSM'd either.

I heard a PJ pilot on the radio tonight, in what I think was a GII, bemoaning moderate chop at 270 and requesting 280. He was negative RVSM. A gulfstream without RVSM? What's up with that?

 

[PseudoName]

Hey...here's a totally unrelated subject. However, since there are lots of SoCal aviators on this forum....I've been thinking.


What about a SoCal Flightinfo.com gathering......a networking, bashfest kind of evening. 94th Aero Squadron maybe?

Anyone think this is a good idea?

 

[TransMach]

Socal Flightinfo

Pseudo,

Probably not a good idea. After all the badgering, berating and name calling that there's been on here about PJ, Trans-Exec, Clay Lacy, Spirit, Avjet, West Coast Charters, AirCastle etc., how many guys 'n gals would show up?

TransMach

 

[PseudoName]

Oh, I agree.....that's why I was going to suggest that if there was a gathering, everyone could leave there "pseudo" name at home. No one would have to give their handle at the gathering.....what fun would that be once we returned home to our computers. Just a thought.

Good point, though...Trans.