Aviation Week Unveils Secret Space Plane

[Fox-Tree]

Was it also what the Navy guys flying F-14s called when shooting an AIM-54? Not that the Tomcats ever shot any AIM-54s, at least at the bad guys.

Yes, they called it for -54s - basically it's a call for any active radar missile and the -54 was the first. It didn't become more mainstream until both services started using AIM-120s.

I think you would find more than a couple of F-14 pilots who might take exception to your last statement. However, shooting at bad guys is quite a bit different than killing them. Shooting but not killing ain't going to make it into Aviation Week for public consumption.

Even though you've had few tours of the CIC, ships and "accidentally" saw something classified, there are a few things the Navy probably chose not to let you in on.

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

Just to be clear, it was a little more than a tour.

Now tell me about Spy planes, Spaceships, and Aliens....come on Foxy, spill it!

 

[Fox-Tree]

What makes you think I know? Just an Eagle driver - they don't tell us much about those things.

 

[Rogue5]

SpaceDaily article refutes many points in the AvWeek article:

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Blackstar_A_False_Messiah_From_Groom_Lake.html

Some of the points made in the above are in dispute as well..

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

BUMP

If someone does not have a need to know, Then they do NOT have a need to know.

Those in the know, sometimes don't know. Others that do know are suppose to know. Some do know that should not know. Then others claim to know, that may or may not know. No, I don't know, but it would be interesting to hear from someone that might know.

 

[414Flyer]

There is all kinds of interesting stuff out there on the ranges and other locations. There is even a really interesting modified 737 out there flying, but good luck finding out much about it or where it is based at.

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

Saw some photos of a modified Gulfstream 2 with a special nose and pylons under the wings. The aircraft was flying out of both Groom Lake and Pt. Mugu Naval Air Station. It is registered to the Air Force Material Command and Operated in cooperation with MIT. It is blocked for tracking purposes. Hmmmm

I have also seen photos of F-16s, SU-27s, and MIG-23s flying out of Groom Lake.

If you believe the rumors, Groom Lake (Area 51) and Tonopah are not where the really secret stuff goes on anymore. The rumor mill says that there is another secret base on the Nevada/Utah border. Who knows. There are more military installations out there than you can count. It is just fun to speculate and our government certainly does not do anything to play down all the mystery that goes on out there.

 

[Weasel Keeper]

There is all kinds of interesting stuff out there on the ranges and other locations. There is even a really interesting modified 737 out there flying, but good luck finding out much about it or where it is based at.

http://www.evergreenaviation.com/supertanker/index.html Tucson, AZ!

Oh, thought you said modified 747.

 

[414Flyer]

This "single stage to orbit "plane was sitting on the ramp at Groom, you can go to google earth and find it.

http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/1544/area512fm.png

 

[Lilah]

There is all kinds of interesting stuff out there on the ranges and other locations. There is even a really interesting modified 737 out there flying, but good luck finding out much about it or where it is based at.

Everybody knows about this plane....it's old news....

http://www.air-and-space.com/Death%20Valley%20sighting.htm

Lilah

 

[414Flyer]

Everybody knows about this plane....it's old news....

http://www.air-and-space.com/Death%20Valley%20sighting.htm

Lilah

Okay, but can you tell us where it is based at? There actually is very little public
info on that plane. While its not "black" per se, I think its sort of a shade of gray.

 

[Lilah]

Okay, but can you tell us where it is based at? There actually is very little public
info on that plane. While its not "black" per se, I think its sort of a shade of gray.

That information is not in the public domain.

I remember when a neighbor first used the term "B-2". It was an interesting moment as the person held a signifcant position in the program and it had been known merely as the ATB to that point. It will be interesting to see what your F-117"?" turns out to be.

Lilah

 

[big_al]

I read somewhere that the Aurora was found in an Air Force budget paper where they accidentally used its name. Then the SR-71 was retired and then brought back, leading people to believe it came out of testing and then went back because of some problems.

And about the secret base, once the government was forced to admit Area-51 exists during the lawsuit by former employees, its secrets were moved elsewhere. Ive heard Colorado

 

[414Flyer]

I read somewhere that the Aurora was found in an Air Force budget paper where they accidentally used its name. Then the SR-71 was retired and then brought back, leading people to believe it came out of testing and then went back because of some problems.

And about the secret base, once the government was forced to admit Area-51 exists during the lawsuit by former employees, its secrets were moved elsewhere. Ive heard Colorado

Groom Lake is still quite active

 

[big_al]

yes but active in what sense? Not the super top secret as it was before.