Avantair Info

[mainiac]

Anyone out there with Avantair info/experience? I've talked to a few crews, seem to be more or less happy, just wondering about the basics: Duty day length, upgrade time,F/O actual annual pay (w perdiems etc.) PIC pay?(what could you top out at?), also range of operations during the "7.5 day"- on rotation. Are you all over the country, or do you stay kind of regional during your week. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[mainiac]

Pretty sad thread, replying to myself! but.. updating my questions if anyone out ther has info, I've gotten some of my own questions answered.

1. Training pay?
2. Length of training?
3. Jumpseat? (anyone)
4. Is the P180 type rated?
5. Are SIC's upgrading in a year or so as told by HR?
6. Flying legs (alternating/non rev legs) i.e. do F/O's fly half the time?

Thanks

 

[HazMat]

1. Training pay? - per diem during training
2. Length of training? - Aprox 3 weeks
3. Jumpseat? (anyone) - no agreements
4. Is the P180 type rated? - No
5. Are SIC's upgrading in a year or so as told by HR? - Yes
6. Flying legs (alternating/non rev legs) i.e. do F/O's fly half the time? - Yes

Thanks - your welcome

 

[HazMat]

correction: they pay per diem only during ground training aproximately 13 days $625.00 - they pay for transportation and hotel

then you are on salary during flight training for aproximately 8 days all done in the aircraft until FSI finishes building a sim (due in August)

 

[Noodles]

Pretty sad thread, replying to myself! but.. updating my questions if anyone out ther has info, I've gotten some of my own questions answered.

1. Training pay?
2. Length of training?
3. Jumpseat? (anyone)
4. Is the P180 type rated?
5. Are SIC's upgrading in a year or so as told by HR?
6. Flying legs (alternating/non rev legs) i.e. do F/O's fly half the time?

Thanks

1) Your salary based on your seat, plus per diem.
2) Ground training is two weeks, flight training is 2 weeks to a couple months.
3) No, maybe SWA, they taken anyone.
4) Unknown, they are running the first upgrade class I've seen in 7 months. Of the FO's in it I know, they have all been here 1 1/2 years.
6) Everyone does it differently, but most people alternate legs.

 

[climbhappy]

what is the captian pay?

 

[rway36]

Interview Info

Looking for the latest interview info. There is no current info on aviationinterviews.com.

Any help is great......


Thanks

 

[CAPTAINDEEZ]

avantair

are they hiring street captains? or do they.

 

[Noodles]

what is the captian pay?

First year is $47k.

 

[Noodles]

are they hiring street captains? or do they.

Not anymore.

 

[climbhappy]

thanks noodles!

 

[psysicx]

Are you guys working 14hr days everyday? Do they put you up in nice hotels?

 

[Dilligaff]

I've had 14 hour days and 4 hour days, it just depends on the needs of the day. Usually the hotels are pretty nice.

Dilligaff

 

[Rough67]

contract

Is there a training contract at Avantair?

 

[Noodles]

Is there a training contract at Avantair?

Yes. It's 12 months, and $18k. It DOES NOT go down over that year period.

 

[Rough67]

thanks for the heads up...

 

[myrealnameis]

Come on now noodles, tell him how many have actually been held to that contract when they split earily.

 

[mainiac]

Hey, sorry to change the subject, but wondered how the Avanti sheds ice? From browsing thru pics, Avantair's website, Piaggio's, I can't see either boots, or what look like hot wings?
Anybody? just curious

 

[myrealnameis]

Bleed air in the main wings and oil cooler inlet, electric for the forward wings, the tail does not have any anti ice because it apparently doesnt make ice, due to the heat cone produced by the engines. Props also no anti ice because exhaust from the engines. The only boots on the plane are on the engine inlets because the cowlings are carbon fiber.

 

[Noodles]

Come on now noodles, tell him how many have actually been held to that contract when they split earily.

Officially, only one. I do know that a couple of people that have left recently have been told they will coming after the training contract money....

 

[mainiac]

Bleed air in the main wings and oil cooler inlet, electric for the forward wings, the tail does not have any anti ice because it apparently doesnt make ice, due to the heat cone produced by the engines. Props also no anti ice because exhaust from the engines. The only boots on the plane are on the engine inlets because the cowlings are carbon fiber.

Thanks, I couldn't see the leading edge heated area in the pics.

 

[myrealnameis]

You cant tell because they are painted. I know, its an Italian thing........but it works pretty good.

 

[flyboy'sfriend]

I've heard that the tail collects ice under certain conditions, and that Avantair mantainence is pretty lousy, stuff breaks alot and they often have a good many planes down due to mantainence on any given day.

 

[myrealnameis]

Yes the tail does collect ice.........sitting on the ground on a cold wet day or night. Unless your NASA and actually did the icing studies I would like to see your facts. I have flown this aircraft in icing conditions many times and never experienced control problems. As for lousy maintenance...........hey its an Italian airplane made to fly 10 hours a month not 10 hours a day. Avantair maintenance does a hell of a job, especially considering that the aircraft have to go to maintenance every 150 hours for inspections. Maybe that is why you may see aircraft in maintenance all the time. To call our hard working mechanics lousy...is way off base. You sir are misinformed.

 

[Autoparts2]

Pay

Not to change the subject but waht is the payrate for extended days on a volunteer basis with Avantair.

Thanks

 

[Dilligaff]

flyboy'sfriend,

You put way too much trust in the rumor mill.

One big problem that we had was getting parts from Italy. Avantair told Piaggio to fix the problem or they will go elsewhere. Piaggio has since been coming through. I totally agree with myrealnameis about our maintenance and you are talking through your outflow valve.

Autoparts2,

We get paid time and a half for overtime.

Dilligaff

 

[angryoneincher]

I've heard that the tail collects ice under certain conditions, and that Avantair mantainence is pretty lousy, stuff breaks alot and they often have a good many planes down due to mantainence on any given day.

Avantair's MX dept is the worst in the industry as far as I'm concerned and I know plenty- see it firsthand all the time. The ones that do know what they're doing either leave or get fired which is typical of this company. Avantair is mickey mouse operation at this point that is run by unethical people.

 

[myrealnameis]

Avantair's MX dept is the worst in the industry as far as I'm concerned and I know plenty- see it firsthand all the time. The ones that do know what they're doing either leave or get fired which is typical of this company. Avantair is mickey mouse operation at this point that is run by unethical people.

And your work there??

 

[angryoneincher]

And your work there??

I'm either a pilot, office person of some type, MX, or one of the lousy clods who run the place, and the latter seems unlikely, now doesnt it?

 

[avman]

I agree oneincher. Too many people that cared, gave a hoot, or told the truth are no longer there. They either left, canned, or blackmailed out with no recorse. There are rumors I have to check with a source to disclose that would blow your mind about Avantair.
Pilots should not sacrifice respect or dignity just to fly....Avantair will tell you to give up both!