P180puke
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From an interview gouge site:
Interview experience:
In fifteen years of flying for a living, I've never experienced a more incompetent interview process. Others have called it "laid back". I call it insulting. After speaking to their recruiter, she, on the phone a number of times and sending her copies of my resume and letters of recommendation, she couldn't even remember my name and had no paperwork on file for me - I had to start all over, giving her copies of everything. He, their new director of operations (according to the traffic on the web, he's only had to position for a month, the old D.O. having left suddenly and apparently unhappily) spent fifteen minutes giving me a presentation he was obviously bored to tears by. A couple of the high points, for those of you who are thinking of shelling out a few hundred bucks to go interview with them (that's right - they don't provide transportation to the interview): - It's not 7.5 days on, 6.5 days off, as advertised. It's often 8 or 9 days on, or more, and you're expected to "pitch in" and be "one of the team" when extra days are required. Overtime pay is 150% - Crew meals are only provided when you're actually in the air at mealtime (hint: compare this with NetJets, where you order off the same menu as the rich passengers). - You will be required to sign an $18,000 one-year training contract. No, that's not a typo, and it's not pro-rated. Leave after 11 months and they'll still sue you for the whole eighteen grand. - You're not an employee until after indoc and ground training. Until you start flying, you don't make a dime. There were a bunch of other things that made it obvious this is just another cheap, poorly managed 135 operation, just like the one you worked for at your local airport not so long ago. We took a short break and I snuck off to look at their dispatch and scheduling area (no one offered a tour). Can't speak for the competence of the people, but the area they work in is obviously low rent, and the couple of folks I spoke to weren't happy with their jobs. Lots of attitude, didn't have anything nice to say about the pilots. Continued the interview with She while He played with a computer in the room and generally looked uninterested in the proceedings. Her questions sounded like she'd read the gouge on NetJets and just cribbed from them. She even posed the "kids in the back drawing on the walls with crayons" scenario. When I admitted that I'd read the gouge on this site, she got upset. Other interviewers seem to take it as a sign of initiative that you did some research, but she acted like I was cheating. He then finished up with a rant about how a pilot that he'd recruited personally had just resigned to go to NetJets, as if it was a sign of poor character to jump off a sinking ship for better pay and working conditions. The interview terminated very abruptly, leaving me feeling that I had been given little opportunity to show them who I am or what my capabilities are. They never asked to see my logbooks, license or anything else, for that matter. I'm still working part 121, so I was able to jumpseat in, but it was still a complete waste of a day of my time. If I'd had to pay for a ticket, I would have been really upset. If I had to sum up my feelings in one word, it would be "disregarded". It's been two weeks, and I have yet to hear from them. I called Her, and she said "H.R. sends out the letters after He makes his decision - I don't know anything." Not that it matters at this point - I interviewed with NetJets 3 days later and have been offered a job there.
Interview experience:
In fifteen years of flying for a living, I've never experienced a more incompetent interview process. Others have called it "laid back". I call it insulting. After speaking to their recruiter, she, on the phone a number of times and sending her copies of my resume and letters of recommendation, she couldn't even remember my name and had no paperwork on file for me - I had to start all over, giving her copies of everything. He, their new director of operations (according to the traffic on the web, he's only had to position for a month, the old D.O. having left suddenly and apparently unhappily) spent fifteen minutes giving me a presentation he was obviously bored to tears by. A couple of the high points, for those of you who are thinking of shelling out a few hundred bucks to go interview with them (that's right - they don't provide transportation to the interview): - It's not 7.5 days on, 6.5 days off, as advertised. It's often 8 or 9 days on, or more, and you're expected to "pitch in" and be "one of the team" when extra days are required. Overtime pay is 150% - Crew meals are only provided when you're actually in the air at mealtime (hint: compare this with NetJets, where you order off the same menu as the rich passengers). - You will be required to sign an $18,000 one-year training contract. No, that's not a typo, and it's not pro-rated. Leave after 11 months and they'll still sue you for the whole eighteen grand. - You're not an employee until after indoc and ground training. Until you start flying, you don't make a dime. There were a bunch of other things that made it obvious this is just another cheap, poorly managed 135 operation, just like the one you worked for at your local airport not so long ago. We took a short break and I snuck off to look at their dispatch and scheduling area (no one offered a tour). Can't speak for the competence of the people, but the area they work in is obviously low rent, and the couple of folks I spoke to weren't happy with their jobs. Lots of attitude, didn't have anything nice to say about the pilots. Continued the interview with She while He played with a computer in the room and generally looked uninterested in the proceedings. Her questions sounded like she'd read the gouge on NetJets and just cribbed from them. She even posed the "kids in the back drawing on the walls with crayons" scenario. When I admitted that I'd read the gouge on this site, she got upset. Other interviewers seem to take it as a sign of initiative that you did some research, but she acted like I was cheating. He then finished up with a rant about how a pilot that he'd recruited personally had just resigned to go to NetJets, as if it was a sign of poor character to jump off a sinking ship for better pay and working conditions. The interview terminated very abruptly, leaving me feeling that I had been given little opportunity to show them who I am or what my capabilities are. They never asked to see my logbooks, license or anything else, for that matter. I'm still working part 121, so I was able to jumpseat in, but it was still a complete waste of a day of my time. If I'd had to pay for a ticket, I would have been really upset. If I had to sum up my feelings in one word, it would be "disregarded". It's been two weeks, and I have yet to hear from them. I called Her, and she said "H.R. sends out the letters after He makes his decision - I don't know anything." Not that it matters at this point - I interviewed with NetJets 3 days later and have been offered a job there.
uke:, I don’t know and I really don’t care what the motivation or grudge is that has caused you to want to try and drag down a company that is so obviously putting a lot of effort into working together as a team to solve issues. Your approach of attacking, pointing fingers and blaming one another shows your obvious lack of maturity and educational level as well as an unwillingness to work at making a change. It is an obvious Monday night, arm chair quarterback technique developed by a self centered, lazy natured cling-on. 
