Avantair dumping?

[G4dude]

Yes other fracs are growing. The Avantair guys claim they can barely keep up with demand. Rumor is that CitationAir is going to start hiring again.

I'd like to see the source of your 16% number. Even in the darkest of day of this recession, I never saw a number that high. Here's where I found the 8.6% number: http://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...ity:S&dl=en&hl=en&q=current+unemployment+rate
As you can see, the highest number in that graph is from the recession in the 80's when it got up to 10.8%

I think the owners like the pilots, but they aren't happy with NJA. Not only did they not like Sokol, the owners hated the man. Most of them are smart enough to know that Hansell is a branch from the same tree.

Check out the writings of Stephen Moore of the Wall Street Journal. Also, Arthur Laffer. Now, if Hansell's management philosophy is similar to Sokol's, then NetJets IS in trouble, because owners will go elsewhere.

 

[gunfyter]

Real unemployment rate higher than federal figures - MSN Money ...

 

[fischman]

Real unemployment rate higher than federal figures - MSN Money ...

Thanks for that, but the article is dated 6/2010.

 

[fischman]

Check out the writings of Stephen Moore of the Wall Street Journal. Also, Arthur Laffer. Now, if Hansell's management philosophy is similar to Sokol's, then NetJets IS in trouble, because owners will go elsewhere.

Every indication is that not only is it similar, but it is identical and more aggressive IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

 

[NJAowner]

The unemployements rate announced by the US government among other items does not include:

1. those who have exhuaste dbenefits, give up, and no longer seek work
2. those who have taken jobs but less than what they want or are skilled for -- i.e., if one of the 495 becomes works the register at McDonalds, he is now "employed"
3. those who choose to work fewer hours in a week to spare their bretheren from being fired;
4. those who chose not to file for unemployment, like many carpenters and tradesman who were paid in cash for many years;
5. those who did not make enought $$ or work long enough to be eligible for benefits
6. youths between 16 and 18 who are now unemployed

 

[gunfyter]

Alternate Unemployment Charts

The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994. That estimate is added to the BLS estimate of U-6 unemployment, which includes short-term discouraged workers.

The U-3 unemployment rate is the monthly headline number. The U-6 unemployment rate is the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ (BLS) broadest unemployment measure, including short-term discouraged and other marginally-attached workers as well as those forced to work part-time because they cannot find full-time employment.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

 

[glasspilot]

Yeah, but the F-9 quarterly finance employment figures clearly show an across the board U-3 upper tier triple lindy. That further supports the H-2 and H-3 demise as 3D lending will not out pace the Euro.

 

[rettofly]

Yeah, but the F-9 quarterly finance employment figures clearly show an across the board U-3 upper tier triple lindy. That further supports the H-2 and H-3 demise as 3D lending will not out pace the Euro.

Well, that clears it up!

 

[SharkBait]

So I am a few months late but combined with rumors I have heard...

http://www.airlinenewsindia.com/2011/08/ratan-tata-readies-plan-to-enter.html

I guess we'll wait and see.

 

[rajflyboy]

The unemployements rate announced by the US government among other items does not include:

1. those who have exhuaste dbenefits, give up, and no longer seek work
2. those who have taken jobs but less than what they want or are skilled for -- i.e., if one of the 495 becomes works the register at McDonalds, he is now "employed"
3. those who choose to work fewer hours in a week to spare their bretheren from being fired;
4. those who chose not to file for unemployment, like many carpenters and tradesman who were paid in cash for many years;
5. those who did not make enought $$ or work long enough to be eligible for benefits
6. youths between 16 and 18 who are now unemployed

Interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.

 

[doylehargraves]

With the stock going down a bit, would be a good buy opportunity for someone

 

[fischman]

With the stock going down a bit, would be a good buy opportunity for someone

Invest in an aviation company???

 

[gunfyter]

Invest in an aviation company???

LOL. I have my life invested in a certain aviation company right now. Hope it pans out.

 

[jonjuan]

With the stock going down a bit, would be a good buy opportunity for someone

At .52, American is a screaming buy.

 

[countbat]

Fractional business like it or not is just another Ponzi scheme. Sooner or later people investing money in something like that will start smarting up IF NOT ALREADY SO and get their money in an own private plane or something else.