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Attention All Nji Pilots II

RustyFan

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NJI pilots,

Use all means necessary to distribute the latest email (#2). We still do not have everyone's personal email addresses. It has been expressed that we do not use flightinfo to post GPAC documents, but use this site as a communication venue for those that read it.


Updates:
  • Communications with NJASAP have been established. They are aware of our actions.
  • Initial responses have been overwhelmingly positive.
  • We have several able and willing pilots with experience that have stepped forward to navigate us through this process.
Please understand that NJI pilots are being unionized into the NJASAP. This process cannot be stopped, but it can go smoothly if we act now to send forth a leadership team.

Remember, as it stands now, you do not have one single NJI pilot at the intergration table.

Register now at njipilots@gmail.com
 

realityman

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Now we're all getting on the same page!! Suggestions from the NJI pilots are encouraged.

Ahhh. It's like reuniting long lost twins. Let's move this effort forward as one team striving for a common goal: A fair and equitable integration that provides ample protections and OPPORTUNITIES for everyone.
 

jenex

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i just want to know how furloughs will be handled until the merger in final
 

Gruman Fan

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100% support!

I just got the GPAC email, read it and immediately realized that NJASAP had to have helped these guys. It's got union written all over it.

Short Story... This NJI pilot is behind this all the way.


To my fellow NJA guys:
(from what I take)

  • This is not a new union, its a leadership team to help merge us in your union... Quicker & smoother.
  • GPAC will bring a voice to the table to sit on the side of the union... NOT MANAGEMENT!
  • This is a temporary advisory group until a formal NJASAP elections can be held.
Trust me when I say, if NJI pilots take control of this, which it clearly lays out how we do it; NJA pilots will be very pleased with whats going on here. Very pleased.


GF

PS. This is a good thing, I dont see why it couldnt be posted on here. Its not that super secret.
 

NJIGUY

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Did I miss something? Where does it say that this team will sit on the union side?
 

Diesel

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Yeah post it here, for those of us that have transfered over who are obviously not included even though we sit next to you.
 

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Yeah post it here, for those of us that have transfered over who are obviously not included even though we sit next to you.

Don't feel left out Diesel. I hav'nt seen the E'mail yet either!
 

Gruman Fan

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Yeah post it here, for those of us that have transfered over who are obviously not included even though we sit next to you.

I can email it to you....




PS, Can the union please open up the boards to NJI pilots so we can discuss this in private? I think this GPAC thing has real validity, but it needs to be discussed in a forum other than here. 2/3rds of our pilots dont even know what flightinfo is. The union board is the perfect place.

Obviously we have a group here willing to stick their neck out to get NJI pilots into the union and have a voice in the merger. I say we give them 100% support.
 

Diesel

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Gruman-

Its being worked on trust me.... It is.

Today is the election day. Tomorrow is a new day but it is a hot topic right now and we are just waiting to see who the leadership is.
 

wolfpackpilot

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Obviously we have a group here willing to stick their neck out to get NJI pilots into the union and have a voice in the merger. I say we give them 100% support.

This should be interesting. If this group is valid, then I agree with Gruman Fan, this has potential and should be supported. I think NJASAP is behind this all the way, but thats just my opinion.


Wolf...


PS Diesel, you're gonna get a gut punch next time I fly with you for little dumb comment. You love touring with me and you know it! Who can go to a place called Lucky's, and have bad luck?
 

Diesel

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Don't worry they were all depressed because Boston lost.

Its not you.... really...

hahaaaa
 

Ultra Grump

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I just got the GPAC email, read it and immediately realized that NJASAP had to have helped these guys. It's got union written all over it.

Short Story... This NJI pilot is behind this all the way.


To my fellow NJA guys:
(from what I take)
  • This is not a new union, its a leadership team to help merge us in your union... Quicker & smoother.
  • GPAC will bring a voice to the table to sit on the side of the union... NOT MANAGEMENT!
  • This is a temporary advisory group until a formal NJASAP elections can be held.
Trust me when I say, if NJI pilots take control of this, which it clearly lays out how we do it; NJA pilots will be very pleased with whats going on here. Very pleased.


GF

PS. This is a good thing, I dont see why it couldnt be posted on here. Its not that super secret.
A) What is GPAC?

B) NJASAP is holding elections now, in fact, the voting closes tomorrow.

C) The union board is open to any dues-paying member. Start paying dues, you start having access. Simple.
 

realityman

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C) The union board is open to any dues-paying member. Start paying dues, you start having access. Simple.

Yep. I stated this in the other NJI thread on this topic. Sorry guys, but this applies equally to all of us. If I don't pay dues, I won't have access to the boards either.

However, after the elections are over (that'd be tomorrow), I'd bet that if you at least gave your contact info to our new leaders they'd be willing to provide blast emails or communications to the NJI folks about this integration thing, as well as soliciting ideas from you folks. I'll suggest it to them after the elections.

Meanwhile, in order to join in the union message board conversations, you'll have to start paying dues. Communication between us is of the utmost importance, but to start off asking for freebies right from the beginning isn't a good way to get this relationship moving.

Honestly, the dues aren't bad, you'll adjust to them pretty quick, and they are tax deductible.
 

Diesel

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The union board is open to any dues-paying member. Start paying dues, you start having access. Simple.

Or you know that they are coming and you can open the door to help the transition into dues paying members.

Lets not be short sighted here. There is a bigger picture.

Communications is key.
 

Hogprint

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If worse comes to worse GPAC could set up a website for the interim. That way you could get the info flow going while dues/web access are worked on our end.

I'm willing to bet a little PM to Diesel would go a long way to helping this get accomplished. :)
 

Diesel

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I think the election decisions tomorrow will go a long way to opening up the lines of communications. Although it depends on who gets voted in. Some have clearly stated they will work with NJI.

Hopefully people understand that emotions should not be brought into this. We shouldn't try and nickle and dime the NJI pilots to use the website. Common over brothers and sisters so you can talk is my belief.

If it doesn't happen by early next week then I bet a separate secure website is set up so that NJI pilots can talk.
 

B727FA

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Neither side is quite ready to "trust" the other...and it's seeming to manifest itself in dues/no dues; access/no access discussion.

If you want to peek, drop the quarter in the slot... (NJA)
If you want us to come willingly, let us peek...(NJI)

An alternative: an open section of the forum/boards that is accessible by all, and a pass word protected section that is turned "off" until your account is approved (ie, when dues are paid)
 

Diesel

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Lets not nickle and dime....

Sometimes you gotta just jump in with both feet.

I always check to see how deep the water is though.
 

CA1900

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I heard a rumor it's gonna be $10 to register for the NJASAP message boards, just like FlightInfo....

:laugh:
 
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