aggiepilot87 said:
Never been called a Communist before... that's a different one. and that's the second time you've had to lean on the Nazi theme. I did call willi7 a utopian, so you got me on the labelling thing, but where the debate?
I really don't think you are a Nazi or a Communist. What I think is that you are not taking the time to realize that some of the behavior you advocate is identical to their behavior.
Personally I'm neither a conservative or a liberal. I don't believe in those artificial stereotypes. That's hype. I'm all for protecting the security of the United States and defending our legitimate interests. We may differ as to what those interests are and the level of their legitimacy.
How about standing up and not allowing foreign interests to negatively influence the course of our lifes/US security? besides, what do guns have to do with this?
I share with you the idea of not allowing foreign interests to negatively influence the couse of our lives or our national security. What I do not share is the idea that we have the right to impose our will, our lifestyles and our ideas on other people's countries simply because we may have the military power to do so. That is where the "guns" come in. Guns = military might.
The purpose of our military, as I see it, is to defend the United States of America against all powers foreign and domestic. It is not to engage in hegemony in foreign countries that do not happen to see things exactly as we do.
If we want to convince others to see things our way, that is the function of diplomacy and education. Not the imposition of our will on others through military might. That is tyranny.
Our Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence do not discuss "foreign policy". They discuss and define the rights of mankind. In my opinion that is not confined to mankind that lives in the United State, but to ALL mankind. Freedom and self-determination is every man's individual right. That includes freedom from the dictates of the American military power or the Amercan government and includes the freedom to have different lifestyles, beliefs and ideas.
None of those concepts have anything to do with being a liberal or a conservative. They have everything to do with being an American. They ARE the difference between US and the rest of most of the world. I am not willing to give up the ideology that has made us who and what we are as a Nation and a people for the sake of any number of $$$$$ or the political power of any group or the religious beliefs of any sect. I will oppose those that do.
Sorry it disappoints you that a conservative has been elected president.
I am not dissapointed by the "election" of a conservative president. Unfortunately, a majority of the people of the United States did not vote for than conservative president and neither did a majority of the people of the Sate of Florida. The "conservative president" was essentially "elected" by a majority of one vote in the Supreme Court of the United States. Yes, that does dissapoint me and it should also dissapoint you.
I accept the Court's decision and acknowledge the fact that the man is "legally President". However, spare me the "elected" part, because it did not happen. By the way, I didn't vote for Mr. Gore which doesn't change the fact that Mr. Bush did not win.
It is not "conservatives" that are likened to Nazis or Hitler. It is people that advocate the use of military power to impose their will on others, wherever they may be or whatever we may think of them. Learn the difference and be a "conservative" if you wish. Just don't be a Facist. An overwhelming majority of "conservatives" are not.
You should also note that "conservative" political ideas are no more or less American than liberal political ideas. Diversity of our people and ideas are the strength of our country. Freedom to express them is its foundation.
Again, Freedom, does not mean freedom of Americans to do to others whatever happens to be in perceived American "interests". Lots of our so-called "interests" are less than noble when it comes to what our government does in its foreign policy. They are really the "interests" of a few powerful people, not the interests of the American people. Those kinds of "interests" I can do without.
