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[avbug]

I walk out from behind the board and meet people from here and other places on the net all the time.

What I don't care to stomach is the snot nosed attitude of Jetter2. Doesn't like what he hears...should't open his snippy little trap to ask the question in the first place.

Guess thats what I get for thinking

You gotta be kidding, kiddo. You need to think, first.

Don't piss on my parade. Christ man. Screw you dude. I was just asking for some advice, not people to piss and moan. Someone comes in here asking for advice and you have to be a prick about it?

Ah, yes. I almost forgot it was your parade. Three cheers for the brave seventeen year old high school senior with the expensive girl friend. Hip, Hip, Hooray! Hip, Hip, Hooray! Hip, Hip, Hooray! Just spout off, so we'll know which direction to throw the tickertape. No parade is a parade without it.

You just want to fly...getting paid anything at all is just a bonus? Check that, kid. That attitude is the fecal material in the well of all that is wrong in this industry. Perhaps with your well off family you'll go buy a job instead. Then you won't have to worry about poverty...just a way to feed that expensive pet.

 

[Jetter2]

And you you continue to prove that there really the pricks in the industry.

I'm just asking for advice, if that makes me some snot-nosed little kid, then so be it. I really dunno what to tell ya man.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

As much as you people complain about your jobs, then go elsewhere. Leave the door open for those people that will appreciate it, not write threads on how much it sucks and nobody should do it.

 

[350DRIVER]

Jetter2,

With all due respect young one, avbug is a very seasoned, accomplished, and experienced pilot who has been in this "game" for many years. I would not discount his opinion(s) due to the way that he comes across. He is probably the only poster on this board that I will follow regularly. You need to take things with a grain of salt and realize that this industry is not all fun and games.


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[DX Rick]

Ah, so you only want responses that say what you want to hear. Very well. You'll have a bright future with few obstacles and a sparkling and enchanting voyage through the delightful twists and turns that make an aviation career such a pleasurable experience. Your expensive girlfriend will teach you wonderful lessons by helping you avoid the pitfalls that the massive cashflow from your aeronautical adventures will bring you, and will probably bear you dozens of beautiful, whimsical children.

Or did you want realistic advice, and are simply to shy to ask for it?

Ditch the bitch.

After she see's his first paycheck.....she'll be out there door.

 

[liv'n_on_credit]

I am a Teenage guy, with an expensive girlfriend and only making $900/mo

Jetter2, I have (3) pieces of advice for you.
1) Don't worry about the girl for now. I'm sure she's the sweetest girl in the world, but don't factor her in your career equation. You're much too young to worry about supporting a girl right now. When I was 17, I was exactly in your shoes, a great girl by my side, ready to start life together. Let's just say that about 15 girls and 8 years later I finally found my true wife. Girlfriends are like buses, if you don't make it with one, another will be coming shortly.

2) Listen to the people on this board when they say how hard it is in aviation, we know what we're talking about, but DO NOT stop if aviation is what you have your heart set on. When I started, I knew all the hardships I would encounter, but after looking at the list of career available in the world, aviation was the only one I wanted to do. Now, after being a flight instructor-turned cargo pilot, I am completely happy. I'm married, I sleep with my wife 6 nights out of the week, I make descent money and have a good schedule. But, I know that the next step I make up the ladder may not be so nice. I WILL encounter furloughs, low-pay, etc. But once again, there is nothing else I want to do.

3) And lastly, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, (one more won't hurt) N-E-V-E-R fly for free when someone is making money off of that flight. Taking your family/friends/girlfriend up for free is fine, as is volunteer work like CAP-nobody is profiting off of you. This also applies when going to a school like Gulfstream where you actually pay them thousands of dollars to receive a job in an airline. Don't ruin it for all of us pilots by supporting a low-life organization like Gulfstream. When people on this board tell you not to do the P-F-T thing, they are correct. It lowers the bar for everyone.

Hope this helps. -Liv'n.

 

[gear_guy]

I sleep with my wife 6 nights out of the week.

No wonder you're happy!

 

[avbug]

And you you continue to prove that there really the pricks in the industry

Yet you still want advice.

As much as you people complain about your jobs, then go elsewhere. Leave the door open for those people that will appreciate it, not write threads on how much it sucks and nobody should do it.

Brightspark, you'll notice that not once did I "complain about my job." As for going elsewhere, I am here. I am employed professionally, and have been for more than a few years in this business, and to date, have done most of what there is to do in the business.

Go elsewhere? I earned my place in this business, in blood, sweat, tears...tears shed on the headstones of friends and co-workers who aren't here to listen to your pissy little childlike diatribe. Try shutting your little trap long enough to listen to others, stop spouting off for a bit, and you might learn something. If you can't manage that little task, then YOU go elsewhere.

Did anybody write a thread here about "how nobody should do it?" The did not. Did anybody here write about "how much it sucks?" They did not.

I've bent out of my way time and time again to help others who are now flying for various airlines, branches of the military, corporations, etc. I enjoy doing it. But not those who can't open their mouths but to spit on the very same folks they're asking for advice, for a hand up. You, my young friend, aren't worth the time of day to lend that hand until you learn that. I suspect you'll learn it the hard way. Good luck to you in the meantime, both to you, and your expensive sweetie. And say hi to those whimsical children. I'm sure they'll be as beautiful as you are eloquent.